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Wednesday, January 22nd 2014, 3:00pm

So MTAR have min damage of 18... is this legit?



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Is this legit?

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Wednesday, January 22nd 2014, 3:02pm

Yep it's legit.

It fires the 556x30mmMINSAS round

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Which does 25-18 dmg

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Best of epic quotes :D

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Just realized it's 4/20 tomorrow


Thanks for the heads up!
*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Wednesday, January 22nd 2014, 3:03pm

It is correct, the MTAR does 18 min damage. DICE most likely screwed up, we don't know when/if they will fix it.

Things people said

And reading Youtube comments still gives me Turbo Cancer.

It really is quite frustrating when Helen Keller sets up her LMG in the only doorway in/out of an area.

What kind of question is that? Since when is cheese ever a bad idea?

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

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Wednesday, January 22nd 2014, 3:05pm

It is correct, the MTAR does 18 min damage. DICE most likely screwed up, we don't know when/if they will fix it.

if by 'screwed up' you mean "purposefully design one specific round for one specific weapon, that isn't used by ANY other weapon in the game, and give it AR-damage", then yes.
"I put aside a few sceptics, the types of decency in the history of philosophy: the rest haven't the slightest conception of intellectual integrity."
Friedrich Nietzsche


Best of epic quotes :D

Spoiler Spoiler

Just realized it's 4/20 tomorrow


Thanks for the heads up!
*Logs out of Symthic in preparation*

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Wednesday, January 22nd 2014, 3:12pm

It doesn't exactly have AR damage due to the different dropoff distance.

But as of now, unless DICE states otherwise, this is intended.

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Wednesday, January 22nd 2014, 3:22pm

It is correct, the MTAR does 18 min damage. DICE most likely screwed up, we don't know when/if they will fix it.

if by 'screwed up' you mean "purposefully design one specific round for one specific weapon, that isn't used by ANY other weapon in the game, and give it AR-damage", then yes.
Ok, my bad, I thought the MTAR just used the AR 5.56x45mm NATO file instead of the carbine 5.56x45mm NATO file.

Things people said

And reading Youtube comments still gives me Turbo Cancer.

It really is quite frustrating when Helen Keller sets up her LMG in the only doorway in/out of an area.

What kind of question is that? Since when is cheese ever a bad idea?

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

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Wednesday, January 22nd 2014, 3:31pm

Gonna join the wagon and confirm one more time it's correct.
Multicomparison looks pretty
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
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Wednesday, January 22nd 2014, 3:57pm

It has pretty bad spread, recoil and reload time, so I think the different damage model was a good way to balance the gun. Otherwise it would be a worse version of the ACWR.

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Wednesday, January 22nd 2014, 4:19pm

It has pretty bad spread, recoil and reload time, so I think the different damage model was a good way to balance the gun. Otherwise it would be a worse version of the ACWR.
in b4 ROF and muzzle velocity.
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Wednesday, January 22nd 2014, 4:28pm

It has pretty bad spread, recoil and reload time, so I think the different damage model was a good way to balance the gun. Otherwise it would be a worse version of the ACWR.
in b4 ROF and muzzle velocity.


20 bps higher ROF and 70 mps higher velocity dont make up for the worse hrecoil, FSMP and reloadtime. Even with the higher mindamage the ACW-R is probably slightly better overall than the MTAR.
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