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Friday, January 3rd 2014, 4:41am

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During damage calculation they probably already put in a check for Body Armor to apply the .93x multiplier. For the HB counter, they could very well add another check to see if the HBar is being used, and if so, multiply the damage by an amount that'd bring .93x back up to x. Of course, the trouble of this is that DICE will likely goof up somewhere and we'll see at least one type of weapon with the counter multiplier applied regardless of Body Armor, or perhaps seeing Body Armor lose its effect completely. And even more bizarre would be that YOU using the HBar stops YOUR Body Armor from working. :/
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Friday, January 3rd 2014, 6:22am

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Friday, January 3rd 2014, 2:49pm

Or they could just code a 1.10x chest multiplier when the hbar is equipt. That would seem to be the simple-ist thing to do and shouldn't involve any game breaking fuck ups by Dice. I'm looking at you BF3 M26 + hbar.

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Friday, January 3rd 2014, 2:58pm

That's kinda what it does for longer range shots; it increases the bullets damage drop off range. Of course it's impractical at short ranges but longer ranges it helps.

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Friday, January 3rd 2014, 3:02pm


The HB generally allows you to fire the first shot at lower accuracy

Lower spread or higher accuracy*

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Friday, January 3rd 2014, 7:33pm

Does anyone else think 50% increase in recoil is too much?

As it stands, I would lean towards less. If it were buffed, no.

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Friday, January 3rd 2014, 10:27pm


The HB generally allows you to fire the first shot at lower accuracy

Lower spread or higher accuracy*
Lower spread. Got the terms mixed up, will fix the post.

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Saturday, January 4th 2014, 12:50am

During damage calculation they probably already put in a check for Body Armor to apply the .93x multiplier. For the HB counter, they could very well add another check to see if the HBar is being used, and if so, multiply the damage by an amount that'd bring .93x back up to x. Of course, the trouble of this is that DICE will likely goof up
somewhere and we'll see at least one type of weapon with the counter
multiplier applied regardless of Body Armor, or perhaps seeing Body
Armor lose its effect completely. And even more bizarre would be that
YOU using the HBar stops YOUR Body Armor from working. :/

You're correct. I'm studying for a game design major at my college, and honestly, it'd take nothing more than an if/else statement chain (assuming that DICE programs in C#):


if(bool bodyshot == true){
if((enemyperkset == "Defensive")&&(bool ARMORperk.Enabled == true))
int damagetaken = int gundamage * .93;

if((enemyperkset == "Defensive")&&(bool ARMORperk.Enabled == true)&&(bool attachmentHeavyBarrel.Enabled == true))
int damagetaken = int gundamage;

int health = health - damagetaken;
}


This is just a crude example of what it might look in C#. As its running through the code, it'd run both checks one after the other for each hit. Integer damagetaken would be a blank, and health/gundamage would already be declared (gundamage depending on the range modifiers from DICE's damage-by-caliber setup). IMHO it's a simple and easy fix; it just needs some refinement and a translation, if DICE doesn't program in C#.
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Saturday, January 4th 2014, 1:11am

Yes, it's an easy thing to code in

No offense but lol'd at the code :P They use floats everywhere and only ceil to int when rendering
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Saturday, January 4th 2014, 2:14am

Yes, it's an easy thing to code in

No offense but lol'd at the code :P They use floats everywhere and only ceil to int when rendering

eh, none taken. Like I said, I don't know how DICE does its coding, but I guess I should've taken into account the fact that all of the damage stats on this site have decimal points :pinch: Either way, it gets the point across, does it not?
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If only more people left the wheel chair, adjustable hospital bed, and crutches behind and played HC. (aka Regen, Minimap, Killcam)

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How do you guys control your FAMAS burst length since it fires its mag in just 1,5 seconds))
I consider each magazine a burst. :/

This is Symthic, we don't do "feels" around here ;)