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Friday, December 27th 2013, 1:15am

Within a class of vehicle (e.g. IFV or MBT), are there differences between the variants (e.g. LAV25 vs. BTR90)?

I spend ~40%+ of my BF4 playtime in the three IFVs. I have noticed that while using the RU IFV -- the BTR90 -- my main cannon actually targets slightly to the left of the center of the targeting reticule crosshair. This is observed for armor piercing rounds, which tend to fly very straight over shorter distances, where it is quite easy to see the trajectory and accuracy of shots. I have no clue about the HE or flechette rounds since I do not use them.

In the ZBD09 and LAV25 my armor piercing main cannon rounds land right on the crosshair, or slightly below over greater distances due to vertical drop. However, for BTR90, all shots hang a bit to the left, causing me to need to adjust my aiming permanently while using this IFV.

Questions:
1) Does anyone else notice this? (If not, are you on a non-XB1 platform? Inconsistency across platforms?)
2) Does this mean other classes of vehicles have other subtle differences too?
3) ^if yes... What are they?


==============UPDATE (12.27.13)=================

List of differences compiled below based on responses in this thread. If you have more information for vehicle differences within vehicle types, please post here. So far:

IFVs
BTR90 (RU)
-Weapon system mounted on front rather than rear. Enables easier "peeking" over hills or around corners.
-Targeting
reticule misaligned slightly to the right. Firing the main cannon
results in shells impacting slightly to the left of the cross hair.

-Allegedly better driving performance than the other two, although reported to get stuck easier (unconfirmed)

ZBD09 (CN)
-Can withstand 2 C4 direct hits, even when simultaneously detonated, resulting in only 99 vehicle damage to a fully repaired vehicle.

LAV25 (US)
-No unique features mentioned.

MAAs

MBTs

Scout Helis

Attack Helis

Transport Helis

Stealth Jets

Attack Jets

Ground Transports

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Friday, December 27th 2013, 1:20am

Pretty much all vehicles are different. Sometimes the differences are quite hilarious

it's most noticeable with the stealth jets (f35 is a flying brick, the j20 is dogfight king, and the other one...mehh)

For tanks, the m1 abrams is generally considered to be the lulzworthy one as it's really slow, has a big ass (which hinders you if you wish to shoot behind you), and that sorta stuff.

The boats are different in speed and acceleration, and some are easier to repair

etcetcetc..the list goes on. im not much of a vehicleguy, so i can't pinpoint the exact differences. But, yes, the vehicles are -miles- apart. Sometimes with handling, sometimes with misaligned sights...and sometimes with everything :|
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Friday, December 27th 2013, 1:21am

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IFV differences?
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Friday, December 27th 2013, 1:28am

the j20 is dogfight king

SU-50 (PAK FA) you mean?

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Friday, December 27th 2013, 1:29am

the j20 is dogfight king

SU-50 (PAK FA) you mean?

iunno...one of them ._.
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Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
*pinches cheeks*
So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Friday, December 27th 2013, 2:15am

the j20 is dogfight king

SU-50 (PAK FA) you mean?

iunno...one of them ._.
The SU50 runs circles around the others... literally

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Friday, December 27th 2013, 2:48am

- The BTR has its turret positioned on the front part of the vehicle wich gives you an advantage over the other LAVs when peeking. You can overcome this disadvantage when you use the other two IFVs by driving backwards all the time.

- The Tunguska is similar to the BTR, it has its turret on the front part and aims slightly to the left. Drive the LAV-AD and Type99-AA backwards as much as possible.

- The LAV-AD has wheels unlike the other two AA vehicles that have treads. This gives it a disadvantage when fighting armor/infantry or other tasks that profit from being able to turn on the spot.
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Friday, December 27th 2013, 4:48am

The BTR has glitched sights.
Apart from vehicle size/shape, they are all the same. BTR does seem to get stuck more often though.
ZBD best ifv btw

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Friday, December 27th 2013, 4:55am

The US boat (RFB) is shit compared to the DV-15. Sleeker, faster (I think), easier to repair, and doesn't get stuck under the bridges on Hainan. And the turret isn't obstructed when firing a TV missile. Abrams is also shit.

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Friday, December 27th 2013, 6:28am

Sadly, the vehicles are not copy pasted across factions. Aircraft are quite broken due to this. Tank play can be very annoying when using the M1. Don't need to get into the details since the above posts got it covered.

Also, BTR handles like a quad compared to the other IFVs. And DAT LAV-AD vs Tunguska/Type *sigh*
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