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Thursday, September 27th 2012, 6:35pm

Help me find a good setup for short-medium range

Hello,

so I've recently noticed that most of my encounters happen within the 40-50m range. I've never been a sniper guy, and although I like accurate and reliable weapons (I've used the L85A2, the AK74 and the SCAR-L a bit), because I like to land my shots, I've noticed that really they weren't giving me the results I was expecting.

I tried to have a long-range AR, such as the G3A3 or the AN94, and pair it with the M26 darts. It's worked alright, but I've noticed that I was lacking effectiveness in those 20-40 meters.

So I went back and I've been using the AEK and the F2000, both with FG and HBar, a little (I've got around 2000 kills with the former and 850 with the latter). I have to say that I prefer the F2000 in terms of maneuverability, and I was thinking about swapping the HBar with the laser, although I do like to switch to semi-auto whenever I see camping snipers and supports.

I don't want a CQC setup, but really a short-medium range one, from up close to around 50m, when the DO ends, let us say. I'm looking for a reliable AR or PDW that can get the job done effectively: this means being able to shoot at a moving and jumping target with some consistency, which is what I think the AEK lacks, because of it upwards pull that makes following a horizontal line a pain.

Anyway, so far I've got the F2000 with FG and either HBar or Laser. What do you think?

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Thursday, September 27th 2012, 6:39pm

M416 (Holo, Bipod, Flash Suppressor)
M1911 Supp. or 93R or '44 Magnum
M26 Slug
(Use your pistol to finish off injured targets, not Slug--pick your pistol based on what you expect to get out of it)

You should be able to keep on full-auto up to about 45m with that setup. M26 Slug is effective up to about 22m, compared to the 12m or so of Dart.
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Thursday, September 27th 2012, 6:39pm

AUG Holo or PK-A, Bipod, Hbar.

Moving accuracy of a non-bullpup AR with bullpup movement speed. 4th fastest partial reload, solid RPM that doesn't get you raped to bad up close. Tied for the fastest bullet speed in game, which is incredible for long range shots, or just being able to hit those runners before they can change direction.

Thought it said recommend a gun. You want the whole setup!

I like the M1911-tac, best blend of up close killing power (2 rounds) and still spammable ROF for distance.
REX is good if you need a finisher or a stopping power pistol since you can OHK people, the reload is better than it was but still to slow for most situations I think.

Medkit so you don't die! Some fools like the M26, but have you ever tried to heal someone with a M26 Dart? Doesn't work to well in HC.
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Thursday, September 27th 2012, 6:43pm

If you're gonna use the boring old FG + Hbar combo, you'd might as well use the AEK. The FG + Laser is a hell of a lot of fun on the F2000. Try it out.

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Thursday, September 27th 2012, 6:49pm

Thank you for your quick replies.


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M416 (Holo, Bipod, Flash Suppressor)
M1911 Supp. or 93R or '44 Magnum
M26 Slug


So you say to use the M416 full auto from 20 to 45m, then switch to the slugs. I've been using the G18 supp., instead, do you reckon it would fit?

@Lennox: I've been using the AUG and the M1911 a bit, and my feeling is that your setup is a bit lacking up close. Under 20m the AUG is a bit slow.

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The FG + Laser is a hell of a lot of fun on the F2000. Try it out.


What distance do you think you can reliably hipfire?

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Thursday, September 27th 2012, 6:53pm

Thank you for your quick replies.


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M416 (Holo, Bipod, Flash Suppressor)
M1911 Supp. or 93R or '44 Magnum
M26 Slug


So you say to use the M416 full auto from 20 to 45m, then switch to the slugs. I've been using the G18 supp., instead, do you reckon it would fit?

I guess it could fit as a cross between the M93R and the M1911 Supp, but it's not as good as either. The main advantage to the Raffica is that you can hipfire it against injured targets at 10-12m and the M1911S is just better past 5m or so than the G18. I guess that you can use the G18S, but it's not as good as either option here.

M26 Slug is just not worth it against targets at <40% health, in my opinion. Yeah, you'll kill them, but the risk isn't worth the kill and you're much better off pistoling them.





What about KH2002 (Reflex/Kobra, Foregrip, HBar), REX, and Medkits? That should do everything well.
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The FG + Laser is a hell of a lot of fun on the F2000. Try it out.


What distance do you think you can reliably hipfire?

I'd say roughly 20-30m. After that, ADS. You'll be at a minor disadvantage, but as long as you're firing first, they're dead.

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The FG + Laser is a hell of a lot of fun on the F2000. Try it out.


What distance do you think you can reliably hipfire?
about 20 meters or so.

i'd personally just stick with the heavy barrel for the F2000. you'll lose a bit of hipfire accuracy, but it'll still be accurate enough most of the time, and you'll get increased effective range.

for some maps (TDM metro, for example), you can also use the suppressor. the F2000 is positively nasty with the suppressor equipped, with its fast and accurate moving ADS and high ROF. great for sneaking around farming campers.

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What about KH2002 (Reflex/Kobra, Foregrip, HBar), REX, and Medkits? That should do everything well.

I've tried it today. I really like the weapon, what threw me off was the reload time. I was always spamming on the reload button, and came out a bit stressed overall from the experience. :)

But yeah, the KH's recoil is exactly what I like in a weapon, and possibly the reason why I'm not comfortable with the AEK. Yes i get the kills, but only because the weapon itself is good. It's like, with the AEK I feel confident only when shooting straight, whereas with other weapons I can follow a running target more easily.

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Thursday, September 27th 2012, 7:08pm

The pistol fills in a lot of situational gaps up close, and I use the medkit a lot because I generally get hit in a firefight. But if 700 RPM is to slow, you are definitely limited to what you can choose. I like the AUG because its effectiveness at range, and near L85-like domination at middle-long ranges, while still being very effective at medium distances.

Given everything you have said, if range<20m: ROF>750RPM

The G3 is an awesome close range gun, it just cant hipfire for shit.

Up close hipfire king = F2000, but its pretty dogshit at range, the reload is awful to.

Would it be fair to say that ROF and reload speed are the two biggest factors for your short-medium range gun? An M16 is your only option than.
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