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Saturday, April 14th 2012, 9:37am

Weapon reload + double weapon swap

Got a query about how reload times works with double swapping at the threshold, more will benefit from this so posting the tests here as well...



G3
Regular reload: 2.1
Threshold time: 1.575

(explanation below)
Bullet counter: 1.6
Regular firing: 2.16
Double swap: 2.76

At 1.6 seconds the bullet counter updated itself, though sometimes when swapping the bullet counter would reset back to half empty. Plus it took 3.2 seconds before the weapon returned to fully normal position again. After 2.16 seconds it was ready to start firing again (reload + hold fire button), while it took 2.76 seconds before it was ready to fire again with the double swap.


M240B

Regular reload: 6.2
Threshold time: 5.208

Bullet counter: 5.2
Regular firing: 6.17
Double swap: 6.33



Also did a test where I fired the M240 and kept the firing button down and swapped to pistol, then counted how long it was between M240's last bullet and the pistols first bullet. Result: 0.6 seconds.



Conclusion: Don't know if it had any actual advantage before, but double swapping to cut time off reloading doesn't work.

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Saturday, April 14th 2012, 10:27am

Re: Weapon reload + double weapon swap

By double weapon swap you mean picking up a kit then picking yours back up?

I didn't know people even did this.

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Saturday, April 14th 2012, 10:47am

Re: Weapon reload + double weapon swap

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By double weapon swap you mean picking up a kit then picking yours back up?

I didn't know people even did this.


I think he's talking about the reload switching from BC2. The gun would be ready to fire before the animation finished and you could usually cut off a second or so by quickly switching to the pistol then back again.
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Saturday, April 14th 2012, 1:15pm

Re: Weapon reload + double weapon swap

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Quoted from ""cverghost""

By double weapon swap you mean picking up a kit then picking yours back up?

I didn't know people even did this.


I think he's talking about the reload switching from BC2. The gun would be ready to fire before the animation finished and you could usually cut off a second or so by quickly switching to the pistol then back again.


Just to add. In BC2 you could get this working with a pump action and fire it like a semi auto. It was crazy op. I am not at all unhappy to hear the exploit us dead.

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Saturday, April 14th 2012, 1:23pm

Re: Weapon reload + double weapon swap

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Quoted from ""Autosynthesis""

Quoted from ""cverghost""

By double weapon swap you mean picking up a kit then picking yours back up?

I didn't know people even did this.


I think he's talking about the reload switching from BC2. The gun would be ready to fire before the animation finished and you could usually cut off a second or so by quickly switching to the pistol then back again.


Just to add. In BC2 you could get this working with a pump action and fire it like a semi auto. It was crazy op. I am not at all unhappy to hear the exploit us dead.

Yeah I was going to say.........that doesn't work in this game

But you can still reload cancel ^_^

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Saturday, April 14th 2012, 2:16pm

Re: Weapon reload + double weapon swap

I think I always reload cancel by simply ADSing. Not sure since now I just do it without thinking =P

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Saturday, April 14th 2012, 3:18pm

Re: Weapon reload + double weapon swap

Quoted from ""Autosynthesis""

Quoted from ""cverghost""

By double weapon swap you mean picking up a kit then picking yours back up?

I didn't know people even did this.


I think he's talking about the reload switching from BC2. The gun would be ready to fire before the animation finished and you could usually cut off a second or so by quickly switching to the pistol then back again.


Yeah, swapping to pistol and back ->:P-

"pro" players used to do this pre-patch to cut of time on the reload, don't know if it actually did cut off time then, but it doesn't do it now at least

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Saturday, April 14th 2012, 8:06pm

Re: Weapon reload + double weapon swap

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Quoted from ""Autosynthesis""

Quoted from ""cverghost""

By double weapon swap you mean picking up a kit then picking yours back up?

I didn't know people even did this.


I think he's talking about the reload switching from BC2. The gun would be ready to fire before the animation finished and you could usually cut off a second or so by quickly switching to the pistol then back again.


Yeah, swapping to pistol and back ->:P-

"pro" players used to do this pre-patch to cut of time on the reload, don't know if it actually did cut off time then, but it doesn't do it now at least

It doesn't cut down on time, but you're less likely to get killed while reloading because you have your pistol out during some of it.
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Saturday, April 14th 2012, 11:40pm

Re: Weapon reload + double weapon swap

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It doesn't cut down on time, but you're less likely to get killed while reloading because you have your pistol out during some of it.


Actually not really unless you're planning to keep the pistol out for a while, which isn't quite the same... The weapon swap is instant, it's the animation of bringing the weapon back up that takes time, during which it's unable to fire, during that time the rest of the animation has already passed :>

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