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Mofixil

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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 7:07pm

@3VerstsNorth
Results for macro with key down/up.
5ms/95ms
Constant jam. Fires a burst, 2-3 secs of delay, fires two bursts, delay again, three bursts and then stops.
10ms/90ms
Jamming, fires 2-3 bursts and then stops.
20ms/80ms
Working a lot better than others but still jams pretty often. Able to do like 4-6 bursts in a row and then pauses.
30ms/70ms
Very short delay every 5-6 bursts.
40ms/60ms
Works like a charm.
50ms/50ms
Completly jamless, works like a charm.
60ms/40ms
Works like a charm.
70ms/30ms
Single burst, long pause, multiple quick bursts, another pause.
80ms/20ms
Few quick bursts, short pause, another 2-3 quick bursts and very long pause.
90ms/10ms
Constant jam. Fires a burst, pause, fires 2-3 bursts, pauses and again 2-3 bursts.
95ms/5ms
Constant jam. Fires a burst, 2-3 secs of delay, fires two bursts, delay again, three bursts and then stops.
5ms/5ms
I think this actually exceeded AN94's 1200RPM.This oversamples the shit out of every weapon in this game.
Checked with M16A4, went fullauto with really small delay happening around 5th burst.
M4 Jams pretty often, like every 3rd burst.
KH2002 Jams happening more often than M16A4 but still really hard to notice.
Just for shit and giggles
This crap created some kind of spreadless monster with monstrous kick. FAMAS.

10ms/10ms
Almost jamless, jams very short, happening every 5-7 bursts.
20ms/20ms
Short jams every 3-5 burts.
30ms/30ms
Jams almost unnoticeable.
40ms/40ms
Jams every 5-6 bursts.

Vids will come later.
First, because I'll need to record them, second, because 56KBps up is amazing.

This post has been edited 4 times, last edit by "Mofixil" (Sep 21st 2013, 7:23pm)


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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 8:30pm

@Moxifil
Good stuff!!

Did you use 15-burst macros? In retrospect, maybe this testing should be done with just 3 bursts and simply by counting the number of bullets fired.

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What kind of values 'trigger weight' gets?
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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 8:58pm

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@tehmoriz
What kind of values 'trigger weight' gets?


generally they are 0.2 or 0.3 seconds. however, the AN94 and AS VAL gets 0.05 and 0.025 respectively. the game files also lists multiple trigger weights (lots of redundant/old entries in the files), which makes finding the "correct" trigger weight difficult.

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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 9:16pm

@3VerstsNorth
Results for macro with key down/up.
5ms/95ms
Constant jam. Fires a burst, 2-3 secs of delay, fires two bursts, delay again, three bursts and then stops.
10ms/90ms
Jamming, fires 2-3 bursts and then stops.
20ms/80ms
Working a lot better than others but still jams pretty often. Able to do like 4-6 bursts in a row and then pauses.
30ms/70ms
Very short delay every 5-6 bursts.
40ms/60ms
Works like a charm.
50ms/50ms
Completly jamless, works like a charm.
60ms/40ms
Works like a charm.
70ms/30ms
Single burst, long pause, multiple quick bursts, another pause.
80ms/20ms
Few quick bursts, short pause, another 2-3 quick bursts and very long pause.
90ms/10ms
Constant jam. Fires a burst, pause, fires 2-3 bursts, pauses and again 2-3 bursts.
95ms/5ms
Constant jam. Fires a burst, 2-3 secs of delay, fires two bursts, delay again, three bursts and then stops.
5ms/5ms
I think this actually exceeded AN94's 1200RPM.This oversamples the shit out of every weapon in this game.
Checked with M16A4, went fullauto with really small delay happening around 5th burst.
M4 Jams pretty often, like every 3rd burst.
KH2002 Jams happening more often than M16A4 but still really hard to notice.
Just for shit and giggles
This crap created some kind of spreadless monster with monstrous kick. FAMAS.

10ms/10ms
Almost jamless, jams very short, happening every 5-7 bursts.
20ms/20ms
Short jams every 3-5 burts.
30ms/30ms
Jams almost unnoticeable.
40ms/40ms
Jams every 5-6 bursts.

Vids will come later.
First, because I'll need to record them, second, because 56KBps up is amazing.

Awesome work! I didnt think jamming is that complicated though.

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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 9:23pm

Awesome work! I didnt think jamming is that complicated though.

It's only this complicated if you want to bypass the special system that got put in the game to disable macro's from working, which you can't do without this info.
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Mofixil

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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 9:28pm

Did you use 15-burst macros? In retrospect, maybe this testing should be done with just 3 bursts and simply by counting the number of bullets fired.
3 magdumps w/o B.I.T.Ch, sometimes more (especially for other weapons).

And seriously, almost everyone makes a typo in my name, god damn why, it isn't that hard, at least it shouldn't. Mo-fi-xil. I also accept Mo, Mof, Mofi, Mofix...

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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 9:52pm

AN94 has 0.25, FAMAS has 0.1, F2000 has 0.2, there goes that theory...

Pretty sure triggerpullweight is a feature for controllers, maybe console only.
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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 11:18pm

Did you use 15-burst macros? In retrospect, maybe this testing should be done with just 3 bursts and simply by counting the number of bullets fired.
3 magdumps w/o B.I.T.Ch, sometimes more (especially for other weapons).

And seriously, almost everyone makes a typo in my name, god damn why, it isn't that hard, at least it shouldn't. Mo-fi-xil. I also accept Mo, Mof, Mofi, Mofix...


Lol, I actually tried to get it right in the first place, dyslexifail, sry :rolleyes:
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Sunday, September 22nd 2013, 5:51am

Seeing how you need 600 clicks per minute to get exactly to 1200 rpm, the fastest someone can possibly do is fire as fast as the AN on full auto.
For the 320 buck, yeah its awesome (long range [on a shotguns point of view] OHK), but it looks like the spread per pellet is high, but the no of pellets compensate.
I'm not sure, but thats whats I think the prob is with the hitreg.

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Sunday, September 22nd 2013, 12:07pm

THX. But how the hell do i get to jam the an94 then ;/ It also hapens sometimes, even though not nearly as often as the m16a4
Edit: Probably i just suck as stop clicking properly when i am excited and try to click very fast
It could also be your mouse. For example the G500 has been proved to be prone to jamming. Source (close to the bottom of the first post there is a link).

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It really is quite frustrating when Helen Keller sets up her LMG in the only doorway in/out of an area.

What kind of question is that? Since when is cheese ever a bad idea?

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