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## Missing shotguns on TTK/BTK charts?

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Thursday, September 5th 2013, 10:44am

It is

### Quoted from "C0llis"

It would be possible to calculate the average amount of pellets hitting a target on any given range. From there it should be possible to calculate average TTK. If I am not mistaken someone on this forum posted calculations related to that, but I cannot remember who or where.

Edit: I figured I should be a bit more helpful and post links to relevant threads if anyone wants to do some calculations:
Spread and pellet cones for shotguns
Useful thread about the probability of hitting a rectangular target of a given size at a given range
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This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "C0llis" (Sep 5th 2013, 10:52am)

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Thursday, September 5th 2013, 3:05pm

Well BBlog provides shotgun TTK/BTK. About the spread and accuracy, I thought TTK/BTK always assume body hits and 100% accuracy?

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Thursday, September 5th 2013, 3:08pm

### Quoted from "Maver1ck"

Well BBlog provides shotgun TTK/BTK. About the spread and accuracy, I thought TTK/BTK always assume body hits and 100% accuracy?

It does, but since shotguns work so different to normal guns you can't really guarantee that you get a 100% hit ratio... Plus there's the general issue with how the game files for shotguns are made, which is why the shotguns aren't included in the weapon comparison etc

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Thursday, September 5th 2013, 3:15pm

According to BBlog, some shotguns kill less than in 1 second on 1-10m, my game experience confirms that.. Often got instakilled by SPAS-12, 870and some others on close range. So the TTK seems to be correct. 50 seconds on 80m for some shotguns also seems to be reliable

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Thursday, September 5th 2013, 3:18pm

### Quoted from "Maver1ck"

According to BBlog, some shotguns kill less than in 1 second on 1-10m,
my game experience confirms that.. Often got instakilled by SPAS-12, 870
and some others on close range

Well yeah... since if you hit with all buck pellets on a 870MCS you do 216 damage up to 8 meters.....

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Thursday, September 5th 2013, 3:22pm

TTK on shotguns is meh. Assume that every pellet of 870 Flechette hits at 150m. 8.4*12=108 damage. So the 870 *could* kill in one shot at all ranges. TTK is supposed to be a measure of how well weapons perform relative to one another. That's not realistic at all.
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