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Monday, June 3rd 2013, 5:52pm

And if stinger range were to be buffed choppers would become the bitch of anyone with enough brains to to aim on anything for two seconds and then pull the trigger. The root of the stinger imbalance is how different helicopters and jets are and the fact that stingers treat them the same.

No they wouldn't.

The stinger is just bad.
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Monday, June 3rd 2013, 6:08pm

The stinger is just bad.
That I can can agree with, but given how the current heli-meta is to stay as far away from the battlefield as possible, a buff to the stinger range would make that tactic even more attractive.

Things people said

And reading Youtube comments still gives me Turbo Cancer.

It really is quite frustrating when Helen Keller sets up her LMG in the only doorway in/out of an area.

What kind of question is that? Since when is cheese ever a bad idea?

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

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Monday, June 3rd 2013, 7:28pm

The stinger is just bad.
That I can can agree with, but given how the current heli-meta is to stay as far away from the battlefield as possible, a buff to the stinger range would make that tactic even more attractive.

A big part of the reason helis keep their distance is because it's the easiest way to deal with stingers. It completely eliminates them as a threat and requires no effort on the part of the crew.

Stinger range should be the same as, or just longer than the heli's effective range. There is no point in having an AA weapon with less range than what it's intended to counter.
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Monday, June 3rd 2013, 7:49pm

As many as it takes for the bastard to get bored of flying and not attempt to outrun the bastards :pinch:

*Sigh*, so many things in BF3 could be easily fixed by removing the 'Lifespan' of stuff. No more bullshit Jets who are literally immune to Jets, no more Chopper Whores who use ECM as an all-encompassing anti-everything defence and, most importantly, I WILL KILL THAT FUCKING TANK THAT HAS 6 HP LEFT DESPITE THE LITTLE TWAT SHOOTING ME THE SECOND MY ROCKET WOULD OF HIT HIM!!! ;(

By lifespan, are you referring to fuel/ ammo limitation or a combo of both? Air vehicle theft could be solved by shortening the out of bounds countdown or even placing a strict boundary over the spawn that will initiate a countdown even when piloting a vehicle. The pocket of out of bounds space will only encompass the deployment and effectively reduce the amount of hijackings.
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Monday, June 3rd 2013, 7:54pm

As many as it takes for the bastard to get bored of flying and not attempt to outrun the bastards :pinch:

*Sigh*, so many things in BF3 could be easily fixed by removing the 'Lifespan' of stuff. No more bullshit Jets who are literally immune to Jets, no more Chopper Whores who use ECM as an all-encompassing anti-everything defence and, most importantly, I WILL KILL THAT FUCKING TANK THAT HAS 6 HP LEFT DESPITE THE LITTLE TWAT SHOOTING ME THE SECOND MY ROCKET WOULD OF HIT HIM!!! ;(

By lifespan, are you referring to fuel/ ammo limitation or a combo of both? Air vehicle theft could be solved by shortening the out of bounds countdown or even placing a strict boundary over the spawn that will initiate a countdown even when piloting a vehicle. The pocket of out of bounds space will only encompass the deployment and effectively reduce the amount of hijackings.


Neither. Pretty sure AA missiles have a maximum amount of time they 'Live' before they disappear after being fired...I think...

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Monday, June 3rd 2013, 8:00pm

As many as it takes for the bastard to get bored of flying and not attempt to outrun the bastards :pinch:

*Sigh*, so many things in BF3 could be easily fixed by removing the 'Lifespan' of stuff. No more bullshit Jets who are literally immune to Jets, no more Chopper Whores who use ECM as an all-encompassing anti-everything defence and, most importantly, I WILL KILL THAT FUCKING TANK THAT HAS 6 HP LEFT DESPITE THE LITTLE TWAT SHOOTING ME THE SECOND MY ROCKET WOULD OF HIT HIM!!! ;(

By lifespan, are you referring to fuel/ ammo limitation or a combo of both? Air vehicle theft could be solved by shortening the out of bounds countdown or even placing a strict boundary over the spawn that will initiate a countdown even when piloting a vehicle. The pocket of out of bounds space will only encompass the deployment and effectively reduce the amount of hijackings.


Neither. Pretty sure AA missiles have a maximum amount of time they 'Live' before they disappear after being fired...I think...

They do, they go poof if you can distract them long enough/outrun them

or, if the game is buggy, they can do EXTREMELY-fast loops around your aircraft WOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSH -> poofpoof no harm done
Pretty much the same what happens when a javelin is fired against a moving mav: it'll do infinite loops until its time to live is met
edit: here's that loop behavior, that can happen to any lock-on weapon: Thoroughly Confused Javelin (Battlefield 3) - YouTube

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Monday, June 3rd 2013, 8:01pm

As many as it takes for the bastard to get bored of flying and not attempt to outrun the bastards :pinch:

*Sigh*, so many things in BF3 could be easily fixed by removing the 'Lifespan' of stuff. No more bullshit Jets who are literally immune to Jets, no more Chopper Whores who use ECM as an all-encompassing anti-everything defence and, most importantly, I WILL KILL THAT FUCKING TANK THAT HAS 6 HP LEFT DESPITE THE LITTLE TWAT SHOOTING ME THE SECOND MY ROCKET WOULD OF HIT HIM!!! ;(

By lifespan, are you referring to fuel/ ammo limitation or a combo of both? Air vehicle theft could be solved by shortening the out of bounds countdown or even placing a strict boundary over the spawn that will initiate a countdown even when piloting a vehicle. The pocket of out of bounds space will only encompass the deployment and effectively reduce the amount of hijackings.


Neither. Pretty sure AA missiles have a maximum amount of time they 'Live' before they disappear after being fired...I think...

Oh, that lifespan. Wait, are you implying that AA missiles in BF3 vanish after a distinct period of distance? Also, do you believe the boundary solution is viable?
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Monday, June 3rd 2013, 8:02pm

Wait, are you implying that AA missiles in BF3 vanish after a distinct period of distance?

THEY DO! <_<"

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Monday, June 3rd 2013, 8:09pm

Wait, are you implying that AA missiles in BF3 vanish after a distinct period of distance?

THEY DO! <_<"

I have never experienced that in all of my hours of Battlefield. However, I have witnessed and even fallen victim to the spiraling missiles of death. Yes, they don't 'poof' as you mentioned instead they haunt your aircraft until the ECM that you expelled, before the lock was even initiated, dissipates leaving ample opportunity for said missiles to smash right into the hull killing instantaneously. Needless to say, I have avoided piloting the Attack Choppers.
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Monday, June 3rd 2013, 8:09pm

I rarely have all these problems you guys (the usual suspects) always have...

Conclusion - since you guys are always right, and what you say should always apply, I must be the best player in the world. SPONSORS COME HITHER!! :D

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Anyone know who this "Admin" guy is? he seems to be on almost every server, he has killed me A LOT and I have never been able to kill him even ONCE!! think he is a hacker?? :wacko:
Battlefield is a communist game, all this help people out, teamplay etc... only commies do that. ;)

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