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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 12:34pm

Sight Zoom Levels / All sight pictures

I noticed that even iron sights zooms in a little bit, so I wanted to find out exactly how much each sight zooms in. On the way I found some pretty interesting data...

How to test this?
Stand at the same spot, aim for the same point. Take one screenshot unzoomed and one zoomed. Enlarge the unzoomed picture until everything is identical to the zoomed pic = zoom level.

I'm using 1920x1080, default FOV at 70.

While I'm on it, I'll provide pics of all the different sights aimed at exactly the same target and distance, but only one iron sight.. Don't feel like suiciding 50 times again...

All zoom levels are written as 100% = identical to regular aiming. So iron sights etc zooms in 44% etc.

Iron Sights/Sidearms:
Iron sights - 144%
Pistol - 144%
.44 Scoped - 298%

RDS/HOLO:
Reflex (RDS) - 144%
KOBRA (RDS) - 144%
Holographic (HOLO) - 183%
PKA-S (HOLO) - 183%

Medium Scopes:
M145 (3.4x) - 297%
PK-A (3.4x) - 297%
ACOG 4x - 346%
PSO-1 (4x) - 346%

Long range Scopes:
Rifle Scope (6x) - 517%
PKS-07 (7x) - 517% (Note: identical to Rifle Scope (6x)!!) Edit: Fixed to 600%
Ballistic 8x - ~680%
Ballistic 12x - ~1040%

Special:
IRNV (IR 1x) - 144%
IRNV (IR 1x) Sniper - 144%
M26 - 144%
M320 - 144%

Missile Weapons:
SMAW - 144%
RPG - 144%
Stinger - 144%
IGLA - 144%
Javelin - 144%

Gadgets: (it's hard to get a proper perspective)
SOFLAM - ~114%-300%
MAW - ~100%-195% (can't aim straight ahead)
EOD Bot - ~81% (really weird view... )

Vehicles: (I'm just comparing "default" and zoom optics / other zoom option here)
M1A2 Abrams - 264%
T90 - 264%
LAV-25 - 264%
BTR-90 - 264%
BMP-2 - 264%
LAV-AD - 264%
Tunguska - 264%
Humvee - 264%
Vodnik - 264%
Growler - 267%
VDV - 267%
DPV - 267%
Rhib Boat - 267%
AH-1 Super Cobra - 395%
Mi-28 Havoc - 395%
UH-1Y Venom - 296%
KA-60 - 267% (Same as a buggy!)
Centurion C-RAM - 264%
Pantsir-S1 - 264%

As you can see, almost none of them has the zoom level they're supposed to have. .44 Magnum Scoped is the closest one, 3x zoom claimed, 298% zoom in game. And an interesting thing is that 3.4x scope only has 297% in game...


So what would happen if we changed the standard FOV from 70 to 90?

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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 12:35pm

Re: Sight Zoom Levels

Iron Sights/Sidearms:

Iron sights - 144%



Pistol - 144%



.44 Scoped - 298%


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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 12:35pm

Re: Sight Zoom Levels

RDS/HOLO:

Reflex (RDS) - 144%



KOBRA (RDS) - 144%



Holographic (HOLO) - 183%



PKA-S (HOLO) - 183%


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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 12:35pm

Re: Sight Zoom Levels

Medium Scopes:

M145 (3.4x) - 297%



PK-A (3.4x) - 297%



ACOG 4x - 346%



PSO-1 (4x) - 346%


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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 12:36pm

Re: Sight Zoom Levels

Long range Scopes:

Rifle Scope (6x) - 517%



PKS-07 (7x) - 517% (Note: identical to Rifle Scope (6x)!!)



Ballistic 8x - ~680%



Ballistic 12x - ~1040%


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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 12:36pm

Re: Sight Zoom Levels

Special:

IRNV (IR 1x) - 144%



IRNV (IR 1x) Sniper - 144%



M26 - 144% (Different colored hands because the first screenshot failed)



M320 - 144%


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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 12:37pm

Re: Sight Zoom Levels

Missile Weapons:

SMAW - 144%



RPG - 144%



Stinger - 144%



IGLA - 144%



Javelin - 144%


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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 12:37pm

Re: Sight Zoom Levels

Gadgets: (it's hard to get a proper perspective)

SOFLAM - ~114%-300%




MAW - ~100%-195% (can't aim straight ahead)




EOD Bot - ~81% (really weird view... )


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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 12:55pm

Re: Sight Zoom Levels

Vehicles: (I'm just comparing "default" and zoom optics / other zoom option here)

M1A2 Abrams - 264%



T90 - 264%



LAV-25 - 264%



BTR-90 - 264%



BMP-2 - 264%



LAV-AD - 264%



Tunguska - 264%



Humvee - 264%



Vodnik - 264%



Growler - 267%



VDV - 267%



DPV - 267%



Rhib Boat - 267%



AH-1 Super Cobra - 395%



Mi-28 Havoc - 395%



UH-1Y Venom - 296%



KA-60 - 267% (Same as a buggy!)



Centurion C-RAM - 264%



Pantsir-S1 - 264%


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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 12:57pm

Re: Sight Zoom Levels

90 FOV difference:

ACOG 4x - Regular then 90 FOV (Yes, I noticed now that I happened to mix US and Russian 4x.. Though the zoom levels are identical)







Glock 18 Silenced (Symbolizing Iron Sights etc) - Regular then 90 FOV






As you can see you get quite a bit of extra field of view on the sides, but at least I feel like it's a bit like sitting in a fishbowl... The whole world is just curved around you :s Plus distances look even further, which makes targets even smaller.

And as you can see, the ADS sight picture is almost identical. You gain about 1-2% extra zoom with 90 FOV, which is next to nothing. But instead you actually lose some FOV on the sides.

So you sacrifice normal target acquisition for slightly more sideways view. And very slight sideways FOV for very slightly better target acquisition when ADS...
Also, the transition from massive FOV down to the narrow ADS FOV might strain the eyes and brain even further, which may or may not give you a disadvantage at bringing up the sights on target fast.


As for vehicle views (Tank, IFV, Chopper gunner etc), increased FOV does absolutely nothing.

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