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Saturday, January 7th 2012, 9:29pm

Re: Plotic - Graphical representation of weapon deadliness

Awesome, I'll start work on adding that functionality.

Image comparison should be cake as well since I already have all of the images stored in a class as it stands. So it's just a matter of creating a new instance of that class to give you the option to save and view multiple runs.

In terms of a 'zoom' window. That could be generated on the fly with the option of the image size.

Edit: I have found out what is going on with the silent image issue. I forgot to update the template to match the new sub scheme. Just drop the word 'Text'. I'll add logic to check for invalid file names.

<<Title>>
<<Sub>>
<<Info>>

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Sunday, January 8th 2012, 1:19am

Re: Plotic - Graphical representation of weapon deadliness

In silent mode title in the saved plots is always 'Famas' and damage 25 - 17
If you fix this I could generate all the plots.
I have my script almost ready for action.

Edit:
Distance of grid seems to broken too in silent mode.

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Sunday, January 8th 2012, 9:37am

Re: Plotic - Graphical representation of weapon deadliness

Quoted from ""Symthic""

In silent mode title in the saved plots is always 'Famas' and damage 25 - 17
If you fix this I could generate all the plots.
I have my script almost ready for action.

Edit:
Distance of grid seems to broken too in silent mode.

Ok... the subs for the grid and title were still pulling from form instead of the class, that has been fixed.

I also added the ability to zoom into any of the images, just right-click on the image, select zoom, and then the zoom size.

The image dialogs are new instances. Which means you can open as many as you want and they will keep the image intact, allowing you to run different weapons and keep the image windows open for comparisons.

That should be pretty useful until something more solid is put in place. The TTK chart is just screaming to be copied for use in a weapon comparison chart.

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Sunday, January 8th 2012, 9:45am

Re: Plotic - Graphical representation of weapon deadliness

I also wanted to throw this idea out there...

I'm thinking that if we can get the scale right, we could even give the option of viewing different scopes and their firing solutions based on the distance.

I could probably alpha them myself, if I could just get the image files. The only ones I can find are the ones that were used to explain mils on that google doc.

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Sunday, January 8th 2012, 10:29am

Re: Plotic - Graphical representation of weapon deadliness

In terms of adding the weapon data into the exe, I don't really agree with that. Ideally, it would be the weapon data in the most constant flux given patch releases for the game that would affect it.

For now, having it look for a weapons folder in the same directory will be the most effective. I'm sure I could find a library that would allow the ability to read directly from an archive file. Then files could be checksum controlled and easily tracked across BF3 patches.

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Sunday, January 8th 2012, 2:41pm

Re: Plotic - Graphical representation of weapon deadliness

Hey, just an idea. Someone else on the forums whipped this up with help from Plotic and it was very much ignored. I like the idea of it though. Can this be incorporated in to Plotic? Sorry if there is already a similar feature. I'm not all that good with Plotic

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Sunday, January 8th 2012, 7:23pm

Re: Plotic - Graphical representation of weapon deadliness

Quoted from ""Suiizide""

Hey, just an idea. Someone else on the forums whipped this up with help from Plotic and it was very much ignored. I like the idea of it though. Can this be incorporated in to Plotic? Sorry if there is already a similar feature. I'm not all that good with Plotic

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The link points to nowhere... just back to the forums... so you are going to need to provide more info on what you are referring to.

I understand it is quite cluttered right now. Plotic 2.0 will be much simpler to manage once complete since it will be reading directly from files. So you can just pick your weapon(s) from a dropdown and select the attachments you want.

I don't want to waste any time with documentation when many of the items will be removed once the information is being automatically pulled.

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Sunday, January 8th 2012, 7:36pm

Re: Plotic - Graphical representation of weapon deadliness

Distance still doesn't seem to be working from ini or did the template change aswell?
Titles etc. are tho.

The recoil decrease actually should also be added.

Heres how:
Lets take an example of 0.5 vertical and 0.3 horizontal recoil.
Decrease would be 18, or 1.8 while shooting.
Weapon would have 800rpm rof.
Pixels per degree scale would be 1000

we start from point x1000 y1700
the first shot without spread would land at:
x = 1000 + 1000 * 0.3 = 1300
y = 1700 - 1000 * 0.5 = 1200

Then we draw triangle between following points:
1000,1700 (the starting point)
1300,1700 (horizontal recoil taken into count but not vertical)
1300,1200 (both recoils taken into account)

Now we need to know length of each side of triangle.
Base is of course 300px (amount of horizontal recoil)
Side is 500px (amount of vertical recoil)
Hypotenuse or what ever its called is
sqrt(300^2+500^2) = 583,09518948453004708741528775456

The amount of decrease in pixels is Scale*Decrease/(RoF/60)
1000 * 1.8 / (800/60) = 135
We need to go 135 pixels towards the starting point from the calculated point of recoil.
we need to draw another triangle to get the coordinates of this point, but we only know the lenght of hypotenuse (135)
The angle of every corner in the triangle stays the same so we can use the same lenght ratios for new triangle than the one we draw before so:
500/583,0951 = 0,85749305730746151013788316862893
300/583,0951 = 0,51449583438447690608272990117736
Then we use these ratios to calculate the the base and side of the triangle with hypotenuse of 135
side = 135 * 0,857 = 115,695
base = 135 * 0,514 = 69,39

The point where shot will land with recoil decrease is
x = 1300 - 69 = 1231
y = 1200 + 116 = 1316

Quite simple? -:>-
Are you able to add this to the code yourself?
Of course you dont have to draw the triangles, it's just there to show how the calculations are done.

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