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Tuesday, September 10th 2013, 5:47pm

Something that really helped me improve my aim with the AN94 was switching from the Holo to the RDS sight (not the Kobra). For the 1st year of playing the game I preferred the US holo because of the higher magnification, however after trying the RDS sight I realized that it is (or feels) a lot more accurate. The lesser magnification also means that you can fire a lot faster (when needed) because of the reduced visual recoil. I suggest using the HB (no FG), underslung and RDS as your setup.

I'm still a legit noob so not giving any advices here but: IMHO Holo > RDS and then, 3.4x has advantages over Holo specifically because of the visual recoil. The recoil is the same regardless of sights: a greater magnification just shows the recoil with greater visual fidelity and allows you to better appreciate where exactly you're pointing with the gun. (Gero2013: And also facilitates getting the single-click headshots when needed like 21.18, 21.28, and maybe 25.52 in your vid (nice gameplay btw!)).
With your logic, the 6x scope is the best option, since the fidelity is even higher. Perceived visual recoil is important (at least on console - here we go again). Also for the vast majority of your gunfights, i.e. up to 50 metres, you don't need a higher magnification. The only advantage the holo (or any other higher magnification sight) has over the rds the fact that you can spot at longer ranges, and you can just shoot the red dorito. I had 150 SS with the holo and I have 100S since I switched to the RDS and the difference in performance is huge.

No, 6x is obviously out of the question because of losing in short/mid-range prowess that already the 3.4x is threatening. But, hear hear, I'll collect some statistics and get back to the topic, maybe RDS would suit me too. Do you feel that you can rapidly acquire the aim with RDS to targets in the >100 m ranges (say from Noshahr railroad to the crane, dunno how far that is) or would you rather move closer and shoot then? Sure < 50 m one doesn't need magnification, but well beyond 100 m, I feel like being unable to see shit with irons/rds...
The question is, how many times do you need to shoot someone at 100m. Yes the holo would be more suitable, the 3.4x even more. But given that 90% and more of your gunfights are within 50m the RDS is more suitable. And if your target is spotted (either by you nor someone else), you can hit your target with the RDS without a problem. Typical example would be Metro from under the escalators (back stairs) you can easily take down targets on the C flag with 4-5 bursts. And that's 70-80m.
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Tuesday, September 10th 2013, 6:05pm

Something that really helped me improve my aim with the AN94 was switching from the Holo to the RDS sight (not the Kobra). For the 1st year of playing the game I preferred the US holo because of the higher magnification, however after trying the RDS sight I realized that it is (or feels) a lot more accurate. The lesser magnification also means that you can fire a lot faster (when needed) because of the reduced visual recoil. I suggest using the HB (no FG), underslung and RDS as your setup.

I'm still a legit noob so not giving any advices here but: IMHO Holo > RDS and then, 3.4x has advantages over Holo specifically because of the visual recoil. The recoil is the same regardless of sights: a greater magnification just shows the recoil with greater visual fidelity and allows you to better appreciate where exactly you're pointing with the gun. (Gero2013: And also facilitates getting the single-click headshots when needed like 21.18, 21.28, and maybe 25.52 in your vid (nice gameplay btw!)).
With your logic, the 6x scope is the best option, since the fidelity is even higher. Perceived visual recoil is important (at least on console - here we go again). Also for the vast majority of your gunfights, i.e. up to 50 metres, you don't need a higher magnification. The only advantage the holo (or any other higher magnification sight) has over the rds the fact that you can spot at longer ranges, and you can just shoot the red dorito. I had 150 SS with the holo and I have 100S since I switched to the RDS and the difference in performance is huge.

No, 6x is obviously out of the question because of losing in short/mid-range prowess that already the 3.4x is threatening. But, hear hear, I'll collect some statistics and get back to the topic, maybe RDS would suit me too. Do you feel that you can rapidly acquire the aim with RDS to targets in the >100 m ranges (say from Noshahr railroad to the crane, dunno how far that is) or would you rather move closer and shoot then? Sure < 50 m one doesn't need magnification, but well beyond 100 m, I feel like being unable to see shit with irons/rds...
The question is, how many times do you need to shoot someone at 100m. Yes the holo would be more suitable, the 3.4x even more. But given that 90% and more of your gunfights are within 50m the RDS is more suitable. And if your target is spotted (either by you nor someone else), you can hit your target with the RDS without a problem. Typical example would be Metro from under the escalators (back stairs) you can easily take down targets on the C flag with 4-5 bursts. And that's 70-80m.

Fair enough. It's a pity that kill distances (or even better, killer-victim locations) are not available in the kill stats.
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Tuesday, September 10th 2013, 7:26pm

There's always the option of bringing the '44 Scoped to the party. Align it on the target sniper, switch to AN without changing your aiming point, pop 4-5 bursts, done.

The Holo is the best optic on paper but the psychological effect of the circle makes it hard to use on the AN for people picking it up for the first time and the horrible hit registration associated with it makes it hard to use over time. I'd use the Holo if I could, don't get me wrong, but I can't because it removes a lot of consistency from the gun.
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Tuesday, September 10th 2013, 7:32pm


There's always the option of bringing the '44 Scoped to the party. Align it on the target sniper, switch to AN without changing your aiming point, pop 4-5 bursts, done.

The Holo is the best optic on paper but the psychological effect of the circle makes it hard to use on the AN for people picking it up for the first time and the horrible hit registration associated with it makes it hard to use over time. I'd use the Holo if I could, don't get me wrong, but I can't because it removes a lot of consistency from the gun.
So you're using the RDS? Also I never thought of using the magnum 3.4 scope for spotting and lining up your shot. I prefer the G18 suppressed just because of the ease of use
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Tuesday, September 10th 2013, 7:53pm

Yeah, I use the RDS most of the time, but in sniper-heavy servers I occasionally bring out the PK-A. I primarily use either the M1911 Supp or G18 Supp since the AN/M26 combo is dominant at all ranges, I just need a pistol that lets me flank. But the '44 Scoped/Reflex combo was one that I used a lot for my first dozen or so SS.
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Wednesday, September 11th 2013, 12:09am

Scope choice really comes down to how well you can see the target. If you have trouble seeing targets with low power scopes, use a HOLO, 3.4x or even 4x scope. If you have no trouble spotting targets at range, stick to the lower zoom RDS. I myself can't see shit with an RDS or HOLO past medium range and if I do spot a target, there is no way I will be accurate.

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Wednesday, September 11th 2013, 8:00am

The Holo is the best optic on paper but [snip] the horrible hit registration associated with it makes it hard to use over time. I'd use the Holo if I could, don't get me wrong, but I can't because it removes a lot of consistency from the gun.


This is Bullshit, there's no "horrible hit registration" associated with a SCOPE of any kind, the scopes couldn't possibly have that sort of impact, they alter FoV/zoom/sensitivity not netcode, and even if they could/did, you'd have to design some sort of test to demonstrate the truth of the claim, and then actually test it.

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Wednesday, September 11th 2013, 2:35pm

Something that really helped me improve my aim with the AN94 was switching from the Holo to the RDS sight (not the Kobra). For the 1st year of playing the game I preferred the US holo because of the higher magnification, however after trying the RDS sight I realized that it is (or feels) a lot more accurate. The lesser magnification also means that you can fire a lot faster (when needed) because of the reduced visual recoil. I suggest using the HB (no FG), underslung and RDS as your setup.

I'm still a legit noob so not giving any advices here but: IMHO Holo > RDS and then, 3.4x has advantages over Holo specifically because of the visual recoil. The recoil is the same regardless of sights: a greater magnification just shows the recoil with greater visual fidelity and allows you to better appreciate where exactly you're pointing with the gun. (Gero2013: And also facilitates getting the single-click headshots when needed like 21.18, 21.28, and maybe 25.52 in your vid (nice gameplay btw!)).
With your logic, the 6x scope is the best option, since the fidelity is even higher. Perceived visual recoil is important (at least on console - here we go again). Also for the vast majority of your gunfights, i.e. up to 50 metres, you don't need a higher magnification. The only advantage the holo (or any other higher magnification sight) has over the rds the fact that you can spot at longer ranges, and you can just shoot the red dorito. I had 150 SS with the holo and I have 100S since I switched to the RDS and the difference in performance is huge.

No, 6x is obviously out of the question because of losing in short/mid-range prowess that already the 3.4x is threatening. But, hear hear, I'll collect some statistics and get back to the topic, maybe RDS would suit me too. Do you feel that you can rapidly acquire the aim with RDS to targets in the >100 m ranges (say from Noshahr railroad to the crane, dunno how far that is) or would you rather move closer and shoot then? Sure < 50 m one doesn't need magnification, but well beyond 100 m, I feel like being unable to see shit with irons/rds...
The question is, how many times do you need to shoot someone at 100m. Yes the holo would be more suitable, the 3.4x even more. But given that 90% and more of your gunfights are within 50m the RDS is more suitable. And if your target is spotted (either by you nor someone else), you can hit your target with the RDS without a problem. Typical example would be Metro from under the escalators (back stairs) you can easily take down targets on the C flag with 4-5 bursts. And that's 70-80m.

I have no troubles outsniping crane campers on Noshar from Trains to the Crane with RDS...

Btw: were you active in the official Homefront Forum back in the day? Somehow your name seems familiar. I think I remember you from a thread how overpowered the shotgun was or something.




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Wednesday, September 11th 2013, 2:38pm

I have no troubles outsniping crane campers on Noshar from Trains to the Crane with RDS...

Ok, we'll see soon if I can do the same. :huh:
Btw: were you active in the official Homefront Forum back in the day? Somehow your name seems familiar. I think I remember you from a thread how overpowered the shotgun was or something.

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