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Friday, October 12th 2012, 1:21pm

F.Lux instead of Gunnar ?

I read this article [Link]yesterday and one commentary lead me to think about Gunnar eyewear, blue tint, yellow filters and the kind.
The commentary suggest using F.Lux (free) [Link] to obtain the same result.

I didn't find a thread on the forum talking about gunnar eyewear (I thought I would have found it in a bleu tint thread, but the research fonction didn't think so ^^).

I'd like to have your opinions about all of it. Do these solutions really help to play or do they only reduce eyestrain ? Can a yellow-ish/red-ish filter can improve your reaction time ? Does it help differentiate foes from allies ?
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I'm a battlefield player, good sir. I don't play metro.

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DICE gave so much into making commander better, but lemmings be lemmings I guess.

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Although if that was the case they'd use up so much of the world's awesome that there'd be none left for the rest of us! :D

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Friday, October 12th 2012, 1:58pm

I've had extensive (not really) research ever since they've debuted years agoooo.

And no, expensive snake oil.

Dice and I have also discussed about this previously, and no, not anything positive came out of that.



Why it's snake oil :

Yellow tint, no it doesn't improve eye sight per-se, it makes your pupil dilate a little more, it will actually STRAIN your eyes when you're so used to it and then you take it off
Smosgarboard of pseudo-science shite - No, simply no. And most glasses are more better than this.

UV protection? Glare reduction? Optical micro climate yadda yadda yadda? Cheap shooting glasses has these.


To end my post on a postiive note : They look badass. Yes, my awful, cheap, and prepubescent tastes in eye wear LIKES THIS SO MUCH. Frames look kewl.

I don't wear glasses though.
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Friday, October 12th 2012, 2:03pm

Anything that messes with contrast, brightness and colors of the "final" video output can ruin your contrast in some situations.

Edit: By that I only mean things that happen on your PC, not glasses. It is a problem with 24 bit color information being processed and then mapped again to 24 bit.
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Friday, October 12th 2012, 2:42pm

As I learned some years ago, thinking of the light as a stream of informations helps seeing the problem with filters : you lose pieces of information.
I played a game yesterday with F.Lux on, and done quite well but I can't say if F.Lux helped in it or not.
I tend to have a better reaction time and aim and all, while low-life. Does the white and black display helps me being better ?

I have real hard time distinguishing allies from foes in BF3 and it often result in me not shooting because I don't want to TK, and dying ...
So anything that can helps is a good thing. Hesitation is a killer in BF3.
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I'm a battlefield player, good sir. I don't play metro.

PC is no longer PC master race. It's PC mustard race, because consoles need to ketchup :'D

DICE gave so much into making commander better, but lemmings be lemmings I guess.

As a good guy that don't want to use overly glitched weapons, I'll quit using the MTAR and switch to the ACWR until it's fixed

The world needs more people like you


+1, I think we're all in agreement that more MrT3as would be an awesome thing :love:
Although if that was the case they'd use up so much of the world's awesome that there'd be none left for the rest of us! :D

yes, I know, I'm a big-ass hypocrite

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Friday, October 12th 2012, 3:08pm

You can adjust the color temperature, hues, saturation, brightness and balance on any monitor... you can change your gaming lighting whether it is incandescent, fluorescent, halogen or otherwise...

Different tinted lenses have a variety of uses in real life, they can most definitely help your eyes adjust to seeing a greater contrast between colors, or a sharper definition of some shapes in high light situations, but I definitely would be skeptical of "gaming classes". You adjust the TV to interact optimally with your eyes, not the other way around... Who the fuck watches TV with light rose or light yellow tinted glasses on?
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Friday, October 12th 2012, 3:22pm

You can adjust the color temperature, hues, saturation, brightness and balance on any monitor... you can change your gaming lighting whether it is incandescent, fluorescent, halogen or otherwise...

Different tinted lenses have a variety of uses in real life, they can most definitely help your eyes adjust to seeing a greater contrast between colors, or a sharper definition of some shapes in high light situations, but I definitely would be skeptical of "gaming classes". You adjust the TV to interact optimally with your eyes, not the other way around... Who the fuck watches TV with light rose or light yellow tinted glasses on?
I'm perfectly agree with the idea of no buying glasses. But you (almost) all seem to miss the point about F.Lux ... that is where is my main interogation right now, I will not buy expensive glasses if no optician tells me to.

So what about F.Lux : http://stereopsis.com/flux/ , it's totally about the monitor, the color it's emit, no eyewear.
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I'm a battlefield player, good sir. I don't play metro.

PC is no longer PC master race. It's PC mustard race, because consoles need to ketchup :'D

DICE gave so much into making commander better, but lemmings be lemmings I guess.

As a good guy that don't want to use overly glitched weapons, I'll quit using the MTAR and switch to the ACWR until it's fixed

The world needs more people like you


+1, I think we're all in agreement that more MrT3as would be an awesome thing :love:
Although if that was the case they'd use up so much of the world's awesome that there'd be none left for the rest of us! :D

yes, I know, I'm a big-ass hypocrite

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Friday, October 12th 2012, 3:41pm

F. Lux is partly true, but I think it has more to do with your lighting than just your monitor.

If your monitor partially simulates day and night cycles, but your room lighting (or lack of) isn't, then you're not really doing much help.
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Friday, October 12th 2012, 3:57pm

Placebo - Wikipedia



Sorry guys...but both solutions are mostly just simple placebos...

An university friend wrote his doctor about those "solutions" and the effects on your eyes were barely measurable compared to using a computer without gunners or f.lux. The stress-level for your eyes will stay pretty much the same.

But yes itīs true that there are glasses which can "increase" contrast by filtering out certain wave-lenghts of light. Best example would be ski googles. But even here the effects are barely existent and are only noticeable in the upper price segment.

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Friday, October 12th 2012, 4:00pm

You can adjust the color temperature, hues, saturation, brightness and balance on any monitor... you can change your gaming lighting whether it is incandescent, fluorescent, halogen or otherwise...

Different tinted lenses have a variety of uses in real life, they can most definitely help your eyes adjust to seeing a greater contrast between colors, or a sharper definition of some shapes in high light situations, but I definitely would be skeptical of "gaming classes". You adjust the TV to interact optimally with your eyes, not the other way around... Who the fuck watches TV with light rose or light yellow tinted glasses on?
I'm perfectly agree with the idea of no buying glasses. But you (almost) all seem to miss the point about F.Lux ... that is where is my main interogation right now, I will not buy expensive glasses if no optician tells me to.

So what about F.Lux : http://stereopsis.com/flux/ , it's totally about the monitor, the color it's emit, no eyewear.

What is it that we are not addressing?

Tinting lenses can very easily and safely allow your eyes adjust to a different range of colors with no detrimental effect for most normal health kids. The cones and rods in your eye are very elastic and can detect visible light at a wide range of intensities. Enhancing some of those shades is not bad, it is just different. If you play 18 hour marathon sessions of BF3, it may become a problem after prolonged use, but that is more the exception than the norm.

Depending on the map, I turn off all the lights and let the TV be the only source of light, that way my eyes are more keenly able to detect pixel color change (movement). The lower light can induce something similar to tunnel vision which is focusing my eyes more precisely on the TV itself which is hopefully not blindly bright. Having the only TV be the only lightsource can put a strain on your eyes, even though they will adjust. It can cause headaches when switching back to bright lights, but nothing permanent, especially if you are young and healthy.

You only focus on the inner 2%-5% of your FOV, you are good at detecting whats going on out to 50% of your FOV, the rest ends up in peripheral vision where you don't even detect color as clearly as you would if you were looking right at the objects. Your depth perception is pretty compromised in regards to your peripheral vision, but that is due to only detecting movement and light with one eye instead of two.

Proper viewing distance from your screen, on screen lighting and room lighting will make the biggest difference for your eyeballs being able to help you in BF3.
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Friday, October 12th 2012, 4:02pm

And I've got some nut who recommends 32" 1080p screens with a viewing distance of only <3 feet.
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