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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 6:03pm

Should we release major bugs to the world?

This is something I've been thinking of. We know of a good many major bugs (which I'll decline to mention because our current policy is to keep them under wraps) that are gamebreaking on some weapons and vehicles. However, given DICE's current rate of patching, we cannot expect a fix until Aftermath releases. This means that, for example, helicopter duels have been ruined (just in time for Armored Kill to be released!) and will not be fixed for a long time.

I don't know about y'all, but if helicopter duels have been ruined and the sky is basically ruled by the RU team, I'd rather not play AK.

And let's not start on all of the bugs for the M5K that imbalance it.

et cetera.

So it comes down to the poll--should we continue trying to keep these bugs under wraps (so we don't see abusers like we did with UDartBro) or should we release them all to the public in one huge swoop so as to try to pressure DICE into patching them?

Basically, this comes down to this: how much can we expect a huge amount of community pressure to work against DICE? We failed once before, with UDartBro, but it's quite possible that EA would rather this not happen twice in a row. I'm honestly thinking that some fixes seriously need to happen but they're not going to unless we get the community to "riot" all at once so as to force DICE/EA to do something.
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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 6:12pm

Meh the community will abuse everything possible. Our current policy is right, hide them and notify DICE, if they bother to listen things like HAVOC BS should get instapatched. I just hope it doesnt end like another DICE report if we hide them and notify.

If needed then the bomb shall be dropped and DICE will sink into hunderds of thousands of BLog whiners screaming HURR THIS IS OP NERF in the 847272 thrwads a week they'll make.
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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 6:13pm

I honestly don't think that DICE would try to fix these bugs right away even if we did release them. The M26 Dart was such a game breaking bug to infantry that I quit the game over it until they fixed it, which only happened months later. If it took them that long to fix something as serious as the Dart, I wouldn't believe them if they told us they would fix the rest of the major bugs. In my opinion it's best to keep things quiet to avoid the game being potentially ruined by its own community.

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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 6:14pm

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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 6:15pm

Make a subforum that requires a # of posts and is hidden from those who don't have access to them.

All that does is let us know. And we recall these bugs, the issue is whether or not to release them to the rest of the world.
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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 6:24pm

Dice's policy for patches is absolutely laughable. When MW3 was released, it had about eight patches/updates between its release in November and the end of 2011. Releasing a lot of content at once is not the way to go with an online game. Because when there's a big issue, that issue won't be fixed for months. With any other game, that issue would be fixed within two weeks tops.

I really don't care. I don't fly often, and even when I do, my primary method of attack on an enemy helicopter isn't the gunner seat. If this discussion is between whether we should release it to Battlelog (and by connection, Dice) or just message Dice privately, I don't see why we should even release it to Battlelog, since either way Dice will know about it.

Unless of course it's because Dice tends to ignore us (i.e. the Dice Report), then I say release it all to Battlelog and let them deal with the mayhem.

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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 6:52pm

The World Champion realized this long ago. You gotta protect the people from themselves. Fact is, The Un-Classy Masses that make up the majority of the player base are a collection of barely literate, intellectually malnourished, reprobates with questionable hygiene. But for all their Sponginess, they seem really well at adapting to new game breaking bugs and/or glitches. then again most simple lifeforms are.

As for the Idea of releasing it to the masses to pressure dice into patching it(Hmm...kinda sounds like terrorism) is just laughable. Even more so in the day of Patch Synchronization, where "shit gets fixed when it does, and that is when we feel like it, so stop stalking me on twitter and how did you get my home number?". Giving the Spongeoids the detonator isn't going to do anything but ruin the game(some more) until some patch rolls down the pike in 4 months are so.

So I say catalog it like I did with my "revive Enemy glitch"(It's true.....sadly) and hand it off to Top Men.

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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 6:56pm

More than pressuring DICE into fixing them, all that will be caused if we tell the world of the major bugs is sheer frustration.

You tell everyone these bugs, you'll get the cunts and dickheads of the USAS days and the M26 days doing their shit (although not on such a scale).

We saw how quickly DICE fixed the Dart and the USAS, didn't we?
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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 6:57pm

I vote Yes, because yeah, it's true, number of glitch abusers will probably increase but, most of the players will complain about these bugs. So we can have the bugs fixed quicker.
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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 9:40pm

See, I think it depends. I was debating this last night.

The only way to 'abuse' the Havoc glitch is for the US team to steal it from the base. Otherwise everyone 'plays fair' and nobody uses helos or both teams just continue and have to live with the inbalance. Personally if I where a server admin on a Caspian server I would give the US team a few more starting tickets to level out the balance a bit, but that's the only thing I can think of. This is the kind of glitch which I personally would not mind releasing because it could not result in an uproar like the M26 did.

However, the M16's suppression glitch is different. Granted the gun is overused anyway, but if people knew that it gained accuracy from suppression the community would be divided into glitchers and anti-glitchers.

The M5K's glitch is a blessing and a curse - it doesn't lose accuracy from suppression, but you can't fire crouched/prone with it so in a funny way the glitches kidna balance out.
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