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Tuesday, June 19th 2012, 6:36pm

Dual wielded pistols... hmmm....

As CoD-ish and unlikely to be implemented as it sounds, aren't you just drooling over the idea? I am.

Since this idea would be going down the CoD route, let's make it go there even further and include the FMG-9 Akimbos.

So how would we balance these? Here's my idea.

Min. hipfire spread: 0.7
ADS Spread: can't ADS.
Spread increase: 0.3
V-recoil: 0.6
H-recoil: 0.5-0.5
ROF: 900rpm
Switching to weapons: 1.2s delay (on top of the time it takes to switch, see below)
Max damage: 16
Min damage: 6
DO start: 10m
DO end: 30m
Reload time (1+ rounds left): 1.5s
Reload time (no rounds left): 2s

As you can see, these stats would make it a TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE long-med range gun (or should I say guns? haha), with 6min damage and such a steep drop, not to mention it's unable to ADS. So it's going to excel in close range.

The 16 max damage is perfect. The recoil is very high, but this isn't much of a problem as you can't ADS anyways, and close range guns generally have very high h-recoil - let us follow this trend, shall we?

Because it's two guns and because they're foldable, there's a 1.2second delay in switching weapons, where the soldier has to unfold them (this delay is on top of the time needed to switch to sidearms). Due to this massive disadvantage, there's a 0.7 hipfire spread, better than other machine pistols. However, because of the insane TTK, the spread inc. is 0.3, compared to 0.2 of other machine pistols.

Obviously it has a lot of disadvantages just for a really high TTK, but it should be one of those weapons that have the edge in the fun aspect.

P.S Yes, the 93R will be a much better choice, with its 25 damage, but bear in mind, while coming up with these stats I was assuming that it and the G18 have 20 damage, so compare it to a 93R with 20 dmg (as it'll soon be nerfed).
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Tuesday, June 19th 2012, 6:44pm

I'd go with 16 damage instead of 15, but other than that, it's a cool idea.

,7 is a bit too low for hip spread. I'd just burst them from the hip like the Raffica and snipe people with hipfire. Take a P90 with Laser Sight and just tap-fire it while moving--it'd be about the same. I'd go with 1.1 but .25 spread increase.
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Tuesday, June 19th 2012, 6:46pm

Hmm. 16 dmg sounds better. I'll change it. As for the hipfire, I think .7 is fine. Yes, you can get around the .3 spread inc by burst-firing, but it's a CQC gun - it should literally rape here.
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Tuesday, June 19th 2012, 6:49pm

no.... just no.

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Tuesday, June 19th 2012, 6:49pm

McGoat, I know, it should never be put in the game. It's just an idea.
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Tuesday, June 19th 2012, 6:56pm

It's a cool idea. But not a single tactical/military person does this. I would hate to see BF3 to turn into some action-thriller Hollywood movie with its Dual-Wielding Pistol gameplay...cool idea, but lets not go there :)

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Tuesday, June 19th 2012, 6:57pm

Consider it an intellectual exercise, gentlemen.
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Tuesday, June 19th 2012, 7:11pm

If the crosshairs was as big as your screen I wouldn't have a problem lol

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Tuesday, June 19th 2012, 7:15pm

Dual wielding is seriously difficult, as if it's difficult enough to use a single pistol. While I do believe that most soldiers are proficient with pistols, I don't believe that they're all 1337 h4x Chris Costa/ Travis Haley/ Canaan/ SFOD-D/ IPSC shooters. Let alone mentally proficient enough to articulate both hands independently under stress. Let's not even think about what your LBE would have to look like to accommodate everything.

That said, if this was some how implemented, God forbid, the spread multiplier better be huge and the reloads fully animated, not some CoD bull shit where your arms disappear for a few seconds and your guns are suddenly loaded.

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Tuesday, June 19th 2012, 7:18pm

Dual wielding is seriously difficult, as if it's difficult enough to use a single pistol. While I do believe that most soldiers are proficient with pistols, I don't believe that they're all 1337 h4x Chris Costa/ Travis Haley/ Canaan/ SFOD-D/ IPSC shooters. Let alone mentally proficient enough to articulate both hands independently under stress. Let's not even think about what your LBE would have to look like to accommodate everything.

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