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Friday, May 4th 2012, 11:09pm

Confessions of a Cheater

I found this on Reddit and wanted to share with community.

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Hi, I'm a BF3 Player. One who 'hacks'. Some background :
When I'm legitimate (not hacking) I'm a ~400 SPM player, an active member of the reddit forums, and everything I'm about to write is absolutely true.
We've all met hackers in game. However, an IRL friend I know plays online games only to hack them. He introduced me to a relatively cheap, fairly well known and undetectable BF3 hack.
I noted it's existence, but didn't use it, or think much about it - until one day a few months ago.
I was on caspian, and a opposing sniper was clearly hacking. On a short ticket server he was 100-4 or so and was able to kill me across the map with impossible shots.
I was infuriated, and in a bad mood. I cracked. I went to the hack website my friend had shown me, bought the hack, and over the course of a few days learned to use it.
Here's the information I think the community at large ought to know.
The hack works by injecting some code into the game as it launches. As such, no files on your computer are altered in any way. I don't have a mass of technical knowledge, but I know this keeps PB and DICE/EA from being able to detect it. The executable for the hack doesn't even exist on your computer: You use a java applet to log in, and it loads it directly into memory and you launch the game afterwards.
The hack's capabilities are immense, and highly configurable. There are so many options. The most notable ones are:
  • I can see the entire enemy team on the map, spotted, with ranges - all the time.
  • I can see who is aiming at me at any time, and the QUALITY of that aiming. (Remember this, I'll get to it's importance later)
  • I can set the hack to aim-bot on the push of a button, or all the time - or none. I can also set it to fire for me - but only when my crosshair is over a space that will result in a kill.
  • I can set the hack key-binds, to toggle any option In the hack.
  • I can choose head, body, foot, or variable shots, as well as no spread.
  • I can set the hack so that ANY amount of damage kills a player (no matter where the bullet hits)
  • I can set the hack to spot all members of the enemy team every so often, for the benefit of my entire team (spothacking).
  • Finally, I can kill the entire other team with a touch of a button.

They update the hack constantly. It only takes hours between a patch and a new injectible updated version.
The aim-bot specifically is extremely customizable: It can be set to only force aim at slow or fast or any speed in between on button press: It can snap to the closest enemy, or the one I have closest to my crosshair.
There are many more options, including being able to FULLY customize the weapons (including vehicles) and others. Also - you can customize it so that all this information is invisible. None of this shows up on the PB screenshots.
So after I got my hack all set up, I found the hacker, and went into his server, and began killing the shit out of him.
At first, I just murdered everyone on my way to him, but once I became more skilled with the hack, I just used the 3-d and 2-d radars, along with the feature that showed me who was looking in my direction, to avoid the enemy team, and just kill the hacker.
He rage-quit pretty quick. This lead to my next finding, as I turned on the hack when I suspected someone of hacking.
There are many, many more people using some feature or form of this hack(or a similar one) on almost every server than I thought possible.
What I mean by that Is I found that on nearly every 64 man server, during the course of a two round span, it's almost a certainty that someone is hacking - and most times more.
Here's how I was able to know (not surmise) that people were hacking.
The hack can be set so that when you aim near someone (whether you have line of sight or not), it will show you how close they are aiming to you - in a percentage.
100% means that they are aiming at you, perfectly. Running around, watching people, I could instantly see some issues.
As you would imagine, holding a 100% aim on a moving target is nearly impossible. But I found people, time and again, who, once they 'took notice' of me - Could hold that 100% as long as they wanted.
In other words, they were seeing me (in many cases across the map from spawn, through buildings and the like) as soon as I spawned - and they had me dialed in, even as I ran, and changed directions.
They were using their own hack to hold an aim on my head, as they got into range/line of sight.
But furthermore, I started to notice something with lots of the vehicles and aircraft: plenty of those would be flying around, but as soon as they got anywhere near me, the aim percentage would go from 0% straight to 100% - and not release until they had fired all their rockets/guns/etc.
This also revealed very excellent players in some cases being accused of hacking, weren't hacking. You could detect in the aim if it was 'human' or not. These cases, while fairly rare, did exist.
Another clear way to tell is if someone was using the hack, is if I could sneak up on someone. Amazing players can be surprised, if you have the advantage of knowing where their entire team is, and what direction they are running and looking, at least some of the time. Hackers using the radar functions cannot be surprised. It was a dead giveaway
I did this for a month, before I removed my subscription to the hack, worrying that I would be stat-wiped, or banned.
But during the month, I did a lot of looking into the profiles and statistics of the people I found to be hacking beyond a shadow of a doubt, and I reported a boatload of profiles (to nearly no avail) .
Here's what I've found- (and mind you , this is a month of playing, I found maybe 100 people that were clearly and undeniably hacking for the above stated reasons). Take this with a grain of salt, sample sizes and unscientific record keeping means these numbers could be 10-20% (maybe even more?) off.
  • If you are over 700 SPM, you are probably (50-60% of the time) hacking.
  • If you are over 900 SPM, the number is even higher- perhaps as high as 70%.
    The vast majority of hackers aren't using most features of their respective hacks, the most popular hack I saw was the 'radar' or spothack. Aimbots are the second most popular - especially among snipers and engineers.
  • Moreover, almost all hackers are 'closet' hackers. They aren't obvious. Also, I would call these people out, and almost universally they would turn it off instantly. (example, I find a hacker, call him one over chat, and he would call me a noob, or insult me. But after that, the hack in most cases would be disengaged - and often the person would leave the next round.)
  • Most people using hacks, once they turn them off, are no good. In fact, a reasonably good person (250~ spm or above) , given this hack, is absolutely unstoppable. I could easily go into a 64 man server, and have a KDR of 20-1 or more in that round, against even insanely good players.
  • Metro is a massive hotbed for hackers, as well as 64 man instant vehicle servers.

I'm doing this because I want to convey to all of you the scope of the issue we face.
Ask me anything about the hack/hackers in question. I'm not going to release the website , unless it's to a EA / DICE related person over PM - I don't want the hacks to spread any more than they do.
EDIT: Formatting.
EDIT 2: Post blew up. I promised I would give some screenshots tonight if it did, and it has. But I'm still at work. I've not forgotten about you all, but my responses may be spotty because I'm working.


I'm not naive, so I knew there were cheaters. I didn't imagine it was as bad as this player makes it out to be. What can be done, if anything? Please share your comments below.

Edit: Posting direct link for those that are interested.
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/com…mation_for_the/
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Friday, May 4th 2012, 11:27pm

This is the biggest reason I can't play on PC, there are just tons of hackers and so easy to manipulate vs. consoles. It's funny because a lot of the stuff that he is saying I can relate to in the past. I use to hack back in the days of Counter-Strike. I didn't do the aimbot normally but I always used the wall hacks / map hacks. This hack doesn't make it too obvious that you are cheating but you still have a definitive advantage over others. Which is what I can understand from this guys post is that there are so much more hackers than we know of in servers, statistically it could be at least 1 in every game/round you play, they're just not using the obvious hacks such as aimbot, we are oblivious to it and it could even be one of your clanmates or friends. This article was an interesting read but does not surprise me at all.

Besides the obvious hacking, it's always hackers who are first to catch and accuse other hackers.

+1 on the thread though and interesting read.
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Friday, May 4th 2012, 11:29pm

Depressing. But just like the M26 glitch, if other people use it, you want to use it. Fighting fire with fire. Just knowing where everyone is a HUGE advantage with little to none consequences as far as other people "finding you out". Best way is Dice needs to get up and change this BS cause i've seen many indie game companies say "WE LOVE YOU GUYS, WE WILL ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOU, YOU GUYS ROCK, JUST PLEASE GET THIS GAME/SUPPORT US AND WE PROMISE WE WILL BE ON YOUR SIDE." *The game gets successful* "WE GOT RICH, THANKS GUYS, NEW PATCH TO FIX THAT GLITCH? NAH. BAN THOSE HACKERS? EH. GONE TO VACATION FOR A YEAR. YEAH." People are like that, they beg you, promise you things..when they get rich they forget about you because instantly they don't need you. That pisses the hell out of me, I always try to remember every single person in my music career, and make sure they get the attention they deserve. EA and other companies believe even if you leave, it wont hurt them, they will have other people fill your shoes who *wont get pissed cause there are glitches, no support, and hackers abundant every game."

Sad. I not gonna say who, but there is a group of hackers that are forming to give game companies ultimatums, such as, "go back to community support and actually show progress or get you whole network ddos'ed/hacked for long periods of time = lose money. <- I like this idea.

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Friday, May 4th 2012, 11:46pm

That is... Scary. The worst part is I have seen Battlelog profiles of people that are selling cheats. On there profile. Dice seams to be unable to fix this.

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Friday, May 4th 2012, 11:49pm

you know what baffles me most?
Why? Why would you use cheats? games are about fun. do you get a darth sidious 'UNLIMITED POWAAAAAAAAR!!!!!!' feel?
i would think that it is just boring. and making top of the leaderboards is just pathetic.

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Friday, May 4th 2012, 11:55pm

you know what baffles me most?
Why? Why would you use cheats? games are about fun. do you get a darth sidious 'UNLIMITED POWAAAAAAAAR!!!!!!' feel?
i would think that it is just boring. and making top of the leaderboards is just pathetic.
Referring to the days when I used to hack on Counter-Strike:

It's that feeling of having an advantage and feeling as if you're "the best one" in the server/game. That feeling of being good and respected in a way. When you have the higher KDR and points vs. everyone else it instills fear in the others. Although you can do this without hacking, it's just easier done with hacking. In no way do I condone or promote hacking but you will never know the feeling I'm talking about unless if you've hacked before.

Some others hack just for the thrill of it to purposefully fuck people over and annoy people, they just get a kick out of it and peoples reactions, these are the ones who make it obvious with no care.
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Saturday, May 5th 2012, 12:01am

I don't see how cheaters can feel like they are better if they couldn't get there using their own devices. That doesn't sound like any fun to me.

I think true cheating like described on Reddit is desipicable.

But I don't understand how someone can equate the use of game physics, overpowered weapons, intentionally or otherwise, etc. to cheating.

For instance, everyone can select the MAV and ride it or choose the 93R, or even the glitched M26 from the menu... these are part of the game, whether the developer intended them to be or not. I don't use the M26 because it does not bring satisfaction, but I don't consider the users thereof to be cheaters.

By contrast, aimbots, wallhacks, etc. are clearly not part of the game, and are clearly cheats.
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Saturday, May 5th 2012, 12:10am

you know what baffles me most?
Why? Why would you use cheats? games are about fun. do you get a darth sidious 'UNLIMITED POWAAAAAAAAR!!!!!!' feel?
i would think that it is just boring. and making top of the leaderboards is just pathetic.
Referring to the days when I used to hack on Counter-Strike:

It's that feeling of having an advantage and feeling as if you're "the best one" in the server/game. That feeling of being good and respected in a way. When you have the higher KDR and points vs. everyone else it instills fear in the others. Although you can do this without hacking, it's just easier done with hacking. In no way do I condone or promote hacking but you will never know the feeling I'm talking about unless if you've hacked before.

Some others hack just for the thrill of it to purposefully fuck people over and annoy people, they just get a kick out of it and peoples reactions, these are the ones who make it obvious with no care.

So, it is the promises of unlimited power from the dark side.
Well, im glad you are back to the light side.

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Saturday, May 5th 2012, 12:33am

What's so funny is all the in-game 'cheats' built into the game: SOFLAM, TUGs, 3D spotting, health and ammo packs. All of which requires a tiny bit of teamwork. It is as if these softcore hackers just rather not be bothered with teamwork. It makes me glad to know someone is better than me, which gives me something to look forward to. That moment I am able to overcome them is satisfying, regardless if it is only short lived.

The last game I cheated in, was Duke Nukem 3D, to beat the last boss. Even that felt shallow; I had to do it again clean.
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Saturday, May 5th 2012, 12:49am

I didn't know hackers could make it so any amoung of damage killed. This explains how bodyshots from a VAL a hacker was using a little while ago instagibbed me. An interesting read for sure, I wish there was something we could do about these assheads. Still, I can usually hold my own on almost every server I join; even if the hacker has the advantage they don't all appear to use it in order to look 'legit' so despite the fact they are complete BS they don't tip the balance of the game catastrophically. That isn't to say it is ever right to do it of course!
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