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Monday, May 14th 2018, 2:38am

SMG Average Case Effective TTK Crate And BF1's Collisions vs BF4's

Automatico



Hellriegel



MP18



Ribeyrolles



SMG 08



MP1216



RSC SMG



Annihilator



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Annihilator = 0.4 base spread, 6x FSSM, 0.9 total hRec


Takeaways:

The P16's burst limiter required a few hacks to get working and I cannot really guarantee it is correct.

P16 Storm Delta



The P16 Storm experienced a very minor buff to its FSSM going down to 4x: -2 BTK for stupid lengths at long range and mostly -1 BTK at mid-range or shorter bursts at long range. Majority is pretty much no change. Reddit overhyped this "return of the memepistole" but at least it's happy with it.

Ribeyrolles are near clones of each other. Optical has a very slight advantage in the accuracy department thanks to Optical modifiers but it's so close you may as well pick whichever you want.

Annihilator is yet another weapon that can beat the SMG 08 at close range. The Automatico only benefits from slightly better accuracy though its worse damage model makes this trade-off awkward.



Also want to show a comparison between BF1's soldier that I use for these charts and an approximation of BF4's since there seems to be a lot of discussion about how BF1's head is smaller than BF4's.



Overall BF1's soldier is slimmer than BF4's and the head is not the only thing that decreased in size. The chest did too. It's not as if DICE singled out the head as something that needed to be shrunk.
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Thursday, May 17th 2018, 8:38pm

From my guess the changes to the P.16 aren't significant at 20m, but are meant to increase its effective range a little bit beyond that. It might be worth comparing 25m effectiveness of the gun if you hadn't considered that already. Perhaps it provides a little boost once it hits the 6-btk damage, who knows?

Other than that, the chart is kinda pointless for the Thompson, which makes sense, with that base spread + FSSM, ADS really doesn't seem like a useful way of using that gun, another case of underrepresenting of Trench variants which is a given with this chart.

Awesome work as always, funny to see the Ribeyrolles variants so close together.

Quick question, how much do you think the 3btk extension of the RSC SMG will affect its performance? New 20m king among smgs?

EDIT: Like you said the P.16 might not be quite accurate, but I think you'd have to do that thing completely manually to get that one accurately, still thanks for the effort :)

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Friday, May 18th 2018, 12:36am

Quick question, how much do you think the 3btk extension of the RSC SMG will affect its performance? New 20m king among smgs?



The RSC damage drop-off was buffed? I don't remember seeing this in the patch notes. Or is this a proposed change that coming down the pipeline?

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Friday, May 18th 2018, 2:46am

Quick question, how much do you think the 3btk extension of the RSC SMG will affect its performance? New 20m king among smgs?



The RSC damage drop-off was buffed? I don't remember seeing this in the patch notes. Or is this a proposed change that coming down the pipeline?


Proposed change.

It would enable a 3HK tap fire 20m. That's it.
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