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Thursday, February 22nd 2018, 4:40am

Min TTK should be:
RSC SMG: 267 ms
SMG 08/18: 233 ms


Wait, so the RSC SMG kills slower than the SMG 08? Does it kill on the same frame as the Automatico?
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Thursday, February 22nd 2018, 5:10am

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Both of your questions are answered in the chart.

Yes.
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Thursday, February 22nd 2018, 5:18am

Whoops, so they are; I was on mobile so looking at them is a pain. :pinch:

I can't say I'm a fan of the RSC SMG, not in CTE and now not in live; it seems too demanding compared to its benefits. I'm not sure why I'd use it over the Automatico, SMG 08, or P16, they all kill on the same frame or faster, and spread/recoil don't really matter at extreme CQB, not to mention high RoF is (as a standalone trait) always better because there's less time between shots where your sights are potentially over your target but there's no damage being dealt (as in, a beam weapon that does constant damage is the ideal).
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Thursday, February 22nd 2018, 10:50am

I'm talking about the new lmg 08/18 I think it's called. The new one with the jack in the box style reload.

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Thursday, February 22nd 2018, 11:04am

I'm talking about the new lmg 08/18 I think it's called. The new one with the jack in the box style reload.


I plan to upload a chart for LMGs eventually but they are really boring.

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The RSC SMG is capable of a 2HK.
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Thursday, February 22nd 2018, 11:29am

With a headshot? Yeah no, I don't consider that a remotely valid reason to pick it.

On a related note, the newly buffed Automatico is absolutely fantastic.
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Thursday, February 22nd 2018, 4:29pm

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Where did you took stats for RSC SMG? Could you share it with us? Could you share other APOC DLC weapon stats, please? :)
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Friday, February 23rd 2018, 5:17am

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Where did you took stats for RSC SMG? Could you share it with us? Could you share other APOC DLC weapon stats, please? :)


http://bfdata.juhala.io/#BF1_F_Apocalyps…s/ChauchatSMG/$
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Friday, February 23rd 2018, 7:56am

Okay, after studying the TTK tables more carefully, I have arrived at the following conclusion: if you have already dealt a lot of damage to your opponent i.e. near the end of your TTK, do not let go of MB1, especially for the longer bursts. Waiting for spread to reset when your opponent is still alive and has like 20hp left will get you killed, because SIPS and SDEC is so low in BF1. I am also very interested in seeing how a higher SIPS and SDEC will play out, while keeping FSSM.

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Friday, February 23rd 2018, 7:00pm

Okay, after studying the TTK tables more carefully, I have arrived at the following conclusion: if you have already dealt a lot of damage to your opponent i.e. near the end of your TTK, do not let go of MB1, especially for the longer bursts. Waiting for spread to reset when your opponent is still alive and has like 20hp left will get you killed, because SIPS and SDEC is so low in BF1. I am also very interested in seeing how a higher SIPS and SDEC will play out, while keeping FSSM.


You'd see a trend toward tapfire.

The accumulation of spread becomes too risky with large amounts of SIPS.

This is then compounded by fast SDEC removing that accumulation quickly.
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