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NoctyrneSAGA

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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 6:15am

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Maschinenpistole M1912: HIPRecoilUp - from 0.56 to 0.768
Maschinenpistole M1912: FirstShotHIPSpreadMul - from 1 to 6
Maschinenpistole M1912: BRoF - from 1200 to 900
Maschinenpistole M1912: Damages - from [23.0, 20.84, 20.0, 17.37, 16.67, 14.89, 14.29, 13.5] to [26.5, 25.0, 20.84, 20.0, 17.37, 16.67, 15.0]
Maschinenpistole M1912: Dmg_distances - from [11.0, 21.0, 22.0, 29.0, 30.0, 37.0, 38.0, 42.66] to [11.0, 12.0, 21.0, 22.0, 29.0, 30.0, 37.0]
Maschinenpistole M1912: FirstShotADSSpreadMul - from 1 to 6
Maschinenpistole M1912: FirstShotRecoilMul - from 1 to 2.5
Maschinenpistole M1912: RoF - from 1200 to 900
Maschinenpistole M1912: ADSRecoilUp - from 0.56 to 0.768


MP1912/16 recoil up 37% on hip fire, and up 243% for first shot ironsights (wow) and 37% rest of iron sights. Pretty huge nerf. Spread also afflicted and damage output at point blank has the same time-to-kill; it's just going to be increasingly hard to hit anything with bursts or sustained fire at ranges beyond like, 5 meters.


Well, it is an SMG and still has best TTK out to 20m.

As I said earlier, it just lost its ability to easily burst past that.

So instead you grab the Ribeyrolles and have the ability to magdump into people 100m away.
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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 11:46am



They're killing it!
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When will this applied?

I always used bursts with it at longer distances anyway. Magdumps only really works with the bipod down, and even then it seems better to burst fire.

Shame about the horizontal recoil though.

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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 2:18pm

Methodology is pretty much the same as the Prepatch Thread.


I tried to repeat the simple ones of your TTK calculation and found some figures not the same.

For automatico, 10m, 5 round burst 5 BTK, the TTK would be: 4*60/900=0.267, same with yours figure.

But for Mp18 optical, 10m, 4 round burst 4 BTK, TTK is: 3*60/550=0.3273, your figure is 0.317.

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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 3:13pm

Automatico:
  • Decreased the horizontal recoil of the Automatico 0.6 -> 0.4.
  • Decreased the first shot recoil multiplier of the Automatico 2.8 -> 2.4.
  • These changes make the Automatico more consistent at mid-range and make it more worthwhile to use in the current Assault arsenal.

Good change, might make Automatico worth considering again. I will make Storm slightly more accurate than Hellriegel Factory, which is only fair given the magazine size difference.
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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 5:17pm

They're killing it!
What the hell they're doing? Hellriegel has 0.38<-->0.38 and they're going to make Ribeyrolles 0.33<-->0.33... that's a pure death for Ribeyrolles. GG DICE.
Ribeyrolles has bad hipfire and small mag capacity. Also, no way it's effective at long ranges. At medium (up to 40-50m) - yes. But past these distances it's beaten by any SLR or LMG.
I suggest to devs to reduce Ribeyrolles bipod effectiveness instead of making gun a total trash.
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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 6:26pm

They're killing it!
What the hell they're doing? Hellriegel has 0.38<-->0.38 and they're going to make Ribeyrolles 0.33<-->0.33... that's a pure death for Ribeyrolles. GG DICE.
Ribeyrolles has bad hipfire and small mag capacity. Also, no way it's effective at long ranges. At medium (up to 40-50m) - yes. But past these distances it's beaten by any SLR or LMG.
I suggest to devs to reduce Ribeyrolles bipod effectiveness instead of making gun a total trash.
Close to a year of everyone using the plebriegel or autistomatico entrenched apparently wasn't enough.

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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 6:49pm

Methodology is pretty much the same as the Prepatch Thread.


I tried to repeat the simple ones of your TTK calculation and found some figures not the same.

For automatico, 10m, 5 round burst 5 BTK, the TTK would be: 4*60/900=0.267, same with yours figure.

But for Mp18 optical, 10m, 4 round burst 4 BTK, TTK is: 3*60/550=0.3273, your figure is 0.317.


Because my TTKs are derived from the FTK and not directly from ROF.

The game only thinks in discrete steps and these TTKs reflect that.

They're killing it!
What the hell they're doing? Hellriegel has 0.38<-->0.38 and they're going to make Ribeyrolles 0.33<-->0.33... that's a pure death for Ribeyrolles. GG DICE.
Ribeyrolles has bad hipfire and small mag capacity. Also, no way it's effective at long ranges. At medium (up to 40-50m) - yes. But past these distances it's beaten by any SLR or LMG.
I suggest to devs to reduce Ribeyrolles bipod effectiveness instead of making gun a total trash.
Close to a year of everyone using the plebriegel or autistomatico entrenched apparently wasn't enough.


That amount of hRec doesn't actually hurt because of the lower FSSM.

Burst sizes of 7-10 go from green to yellow in my calculations but it still beats the Hellriegel.

Also the bipod completely nullifies this nerf and 7-10 round magdumps go back to being green.



They're also nerfing the Hellriegel's zoom-in speed so it's going to lose in CQB fights against other SMGs.

Especially Trench SMGs.
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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 8:34pm

The Ribey has been my favourite and most used SMG since it released, but I'm entirely okay with the change. Honestly it's pretty minor in practice.
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Saturday, February 3rd 2018, 1:03am

Wait there are new changes to the SMGs?

If Ribey really gets that nerf, I am not sure if I would pick it over MP18 optical.

Do not think the TTK patch is doing enough for SMGs. SMGs feel pretty much the same. IMO it is a godly buff patch to quite a few SLRs.