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Tuesday, December 12th 2017, 8:49pm

11th December 2017 Battlefield 1 Patch Notes - Symthic style

Exact patch weapon changes - Battlefield 1 11th December 2017 update ("Turning Tides") Official Symthic Patch notes

Site database hasn't been updated yet! It still shows old data till its changelog updates!
Here's a full list of weapon changes in the 11th December Battlefield 1 patch ("Turning Tides")

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Weapon changes



Weapon changes:
Madsen MG Low Weight: NumBulletsReloaded - from 31 to 30
Madsen MG Low Weight: MagSize - from 31 to 30
Madsen MG Storm: NumBulletsReloaded - from 31 to 30
Madsen MG Storm: MagSize - from 31 to 30
Madsen MG Trench: NumBulletsReloaded - from 31 to 30
Madsen MG Trench: MagSize - from 31 to 30
Model 1900 Factory: HIPProneMoveSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: HIPStandBaseSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: HIPProneBaseSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: ADSStandBaseSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: ADSCrouchBaseSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: HIPStandMoveSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: HIPRecoilDec - from 4.5 to 9
Model 1900 Factory: ADSProneBaseSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: ADSProneMoveSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: HIPStandMoveSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: ADSProneBaseSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: HIPCrouchMoveSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: ADSRecoilDec - from 4.5 to 9
Model 1900 Factory: HIPStandBaseSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: ADSStandMoveSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: HIPCrouchMoveSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: ADSCrouchMoveSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: ADSCrouchBaseSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: HIPCrouchBaseSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: ADSStandMoveSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: ADSProneMoveSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: HIPProneBaseSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: HIPCrouchBaseSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Factory: ADSStandBaseSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: ADSCrouchMoveSpreadDec - from 9 to 18
Model 1900 Factory: HIPProneMoveSpreadInc - from 1.6 to 0.3
Model 1900 Slug: HIPRecoilDec - from 4.5 to 9
Model 1900 Slug: ADSRecoilDec - from 4.5 to 9
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
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Tuesday, December 12th 2017, 9:12pm

Thanks! Do you also have the new weapon stats, or is that still to come?

Really really nice buff for the 1900 Slug right there.

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Tuesday, December 12th 2017, 9:46pm

Thanks! Do you also have the new weapon stats, or is that still to come?

Really really nice buff for the 1900 Slug right there.

Working on adding those to site atm. Hopefully getting them online this evening.

PS: There probably will be mistakes with names / weapons missing ^^'.
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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Tuesday, December 12th 2017, 10:06pm

Thanks! Do you also have the new weapon stats, or is that still to come?

Really really nice buff for the 1900 Slug right there.

Working on adding those to site atm. Hopefully getting them online this evening.

PS: There probably will be mistakes with names / weapons missing ^^'.


If you need help verifying anything, let me now.

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Tuesday, December 12th 2017, 10:31pm

Thanks! Do you also have the new weapon stats, or is that still to come?

Really really nice buff for the 1900 Slug right there.

Working on adding those to site atm. Hopefully getting them online this evening.

PS: There probably will be mistakes with names / weapons missing ^^'.


If you need help verifying anything, let me now.


I you can check the added weapons (or missing ones) when the site updates, that would be nice ^^'.

Sorry. I thought end of studies would give me more free time, but nooope :v
Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
Sorry if your name wasn't on the list, I honestly can't recall all names : ( . Nudge me if you want to be included

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Tuesday, December 12th 2017, 10:34pm

So, who wants to know stats in the meantime? I've got them all right here in the Browser.
To Aim Assist or not to Aim Assist, that is the question.

Nope. Aim Assist or bust; here's why:

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Prepare your laughbox

the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Tuesday, December 12th 2017, 10:45pm

So, who wants to know stats in the meantime? I've got them all right here in the Browser.


Yes please

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Tuesday, December 12th 2017, 10:47pm

What guns you have in mind and what stats do you want from each?
To Aim Assist or not to Aim Assist, that is the question.

Nope. Aim Assist or bust; here's why:

Default Aim Assist Data

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Prepare your laughbox

the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Tuesday, December 12th 2017, 10:54pm

What guns you have in mind and what stats do you want from each?


You are teasing us man!

But, really if you have new medic rifle stats, I'd love to see see them. I was interesting in the base spread (while ADS) 0.18 or 0.21 seem to be the big two values for medic rifles. I was erring on the side of 0.21 (like the Rigotti) but would like confirmation.

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Tuesday, December 12th 2017, 10:57pm

:P

Farquahr Hill is 0.18 min spread for Storm and 0.135 for Optical.

0.9 Vrecoil, 0.6 total Hrecoil for Optical and 0.54 Vrecoil, 0.36 total Hrecoil for Storm.
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Prepare your laughbox

the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho