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Tuesday, February 14th 2017, 5:28pm

I notice however that spread dec has also been halved. I presume this means that if you're to fire at max rpm, spread won't stack so quickly, but if pacing shots, not at max rpm, recovery to base spread isn't changed.

Further more, I see that recoil decrease has also been nerfed from 6 to 4, presumably requiring a little more compensation of vertical recoil and horizontal recoil will now be a bit more noticeable?

It is already like that for weapons that have both Marksman / Optical and also Factory variants (Cei-Rigotti, Auto-8 .35, M1916).

In ADS paced shots (shoot-recover-shoot), no difference, due to despite halved Spread Decrease rate, Spread Increase Per Shot also halved, so they cancel each other out.

In ADS max-RPM rapid-fire, the Marksman / Optical is better due to SIPS buff.

In Hipfire, the Marksman / Optical is WORSE, due to same Hitrate as Factory but 2x longer SDec.

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So now the 1906 "Factory" is now a "Marksman," with all of the pluses and minuses that implies, but the name is not changed. Honestly, that doesn't sit well with me. It is a "Marksman," so call it as such.

It should also get that "Vertical Foregrip" in the 3D model, plus less (for me, but more for others) importantly the "Marksman Scope." Unless it does... I haven't checked. Maybe I should.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2017, 6:02pm

It's not shitposting hour. Cut out the "wtf DICE" comments or leave.

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Do not bump, quote for truth, cross-post, or post only to say thanks, The Reputation system is there for that purpose. We don't want to hear your funny story about something that happened in your round last night, your baseless speculation is unproductive, and your idea for a new ability really isn't that interesting. If you have an idea you'd like to share with the community, support it with analysis, testing, or both that indicates you've put some thought into it.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2017, 6:06pm

Maybe there was no time to do and test the proper nerf before the deadline?
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Tuesday, February 14th 2017, 6:43pm

yugas is right, shitposting hour is strictly between 1700 and 1800 Pacific.

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"you obviously don't know what an argument is as there is only one person battling. Do you really fucking think I want subs? You think you can act all big and powerful just because you sit on a computer at least 6 hours a day like the probably nerdy unwanted retard you are with 4.3k subs? You think 4.3k subs is a lot? LOL you need medicine man. I don't want any subs as i just have a google account for other media and writing comments. Think twice before you act. You even said in your video you aren't that great of a player, and the comments agree you aren't. Maybe you should once again think twice before you act, stop being such an annoying, ignorant bastard that everyone wants to shut up, and god, literally, just shut up. Your voice gave me a headache :s"

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"The more you watch his vid the dumber he gets I swear he's borderline autistic look I got shot behind cover beacuase thin sheets metal are unpenetrable. Bf4 is just as quiet and tactical as bf3 random explosion in the background . Player has dissconected from chat
You started playing bf3 and never touched bfc1/2. Please do yourself a favor and shutdown your generic cod channel down"

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"Marbleduck you don't know shit lol levelcap knows more than you do you cant talk about how someone puts up garbage when you do yourself your a newcomer to YouTube acting like you know shit step up in the food chain first then you have the right to talk otherwise your just a fish trying to compete with sharks"

"Why don't we just witness "LevelCap vs MarbleDuck" One on One both on Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4 seen as there is so much Controversy about the Two Youtubers"

"stfu cunt, BF3 was way better end of discussion"

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Tuesday, February 14th 2017, 7:00pm

All right, let think about this nerf more logicly. I always adore those cqb killing machine. because they have a huge flaw, how to get into the close quarter easier or how to create those environment that favor me? This for me is the skill gap on how to play those guns. But in bf1, those things are gone. all you need to do is just toss a gas nade on your feet and than spray and prey all day long. this is ridiculous. And Trench make this matter even worse. Your hip-fire is sooo good. It is almost incompetible and did I mention you get two gas nade?

The nerf to storm IMO is more toward tune down the stability for 1918 and limit the range it can have. But I don't think this nerf will make huge impact. since trench still dominate the usage of automatic

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Tuesday, February 14th 2017, 7:11pm

All right, let think about this nerf more logicly. I always adore those cqb killing machine. because they have a huge flaw, how to get into the close quarter easier or how to create those environment that favor me? This for me is the skill gap on how to play those guns. But in bf1, those things are gone. all you need to do is just toss a gas nade on your feet and than spray and prey all day long. this is ridiculous. And Trench make this matter even worse. Your hip-fire is sooo good. It is almost incompetible and did I mention you get two gas nade?


You ever consider that maybe you are at the point where creating CQB-favorable scenarios is natural to you and that is why it feels like EZ mode?

I don't see how gassing yourself and spraying is supposed to be a sign that you don't need to consider how to close gaps or create CQB-favorable scenarios.

In fact, the gas grenade is a tool that is used pretty much for creating a scenario favorable for good hipfire. Not sure why you are complaining.
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Tuesday, February 14th 2017, 7:41pm

All right, let think about this nerf more logicly. I always adore those cqb killing machine. because they have a huge flaw, how to get into the close quarter easier or how to create those environment that favor me? This for me is the skill gap on how to play those guns. But in bf1, those things are gone. all you need to do is just toss a gas nade on your feet and than spray and prey all day long. this is ridiculous. And Trench make this matter even worse. Your hip-fire is sooo good. It is almost incompetible and did I mention you get two gas nade?


You ever consider that maybe you are at the point where creating CQB-favorable scenarios is natural to you and that is why it feels like EZ mode?

I don't see how gassing yourself and spraying is supposed to be a sign that you don't need to consider how to close gaps or create CQB-favorable scenarios.

In fact, the gas grenade is a tool that is used pretty much for creating a scenario favorable for good hipfire. Not sure why you are complaining.
BF1 has some troublesome engagement mechanics in my view.

The core flags tend to be densely covered to the point where hipfire weapons, especially when combined with gas, can totally dominate the fight for specific flag radius.

However with the dearth of fast movers and the relatively wide open dead zones between flags, if you get engaged while transitioning from flag to flag you are basically toast with nowhere to hide, doubly so if an enemy vehicle is on overwatch.

That is to say when transitioning it doesn't really matter what weapons you have short of a BA and amazing response times, since you're probably going to lose.

So to me this really sets up a very "all or nothing" situation that really favours gas + hipfire at point blank ranges.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2017, 9:13pm

Before the moderation, what was the 'nerf' that had everyone complaining? Increase of horizontal recoil on Storm presets?
To Aim Assist or not to Aim Assist, that is the question.
For 'skill cannons,' that is.

Nope, Aim Assist or bust.

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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho