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Friday, December 16th 2016, 11:07am

edit: In case anyone is wondering: the descents of the graphs should be linear but they're not, because the timescale at the bottom isn't linear either. It's just certain milliseconds at which "stuff happens" lined up on a scale.


Just a suggestion to improve your graphics. :)

When "X" does not have a regular spacing, use scatter plots. That places each pair "X, Y" in its correct position.

If you use line or bar graphs the value "X" is not a coordinate, it is a category. And if you have the values 1,3,7,15 (for instance), you will have four categories spaced regularly and not located in those values of the "X" axis.

I don't know if Google Sheets allows to link points with lines in scatter plots. EXCEL permits it.

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Friday, December 16th 2016, 6:04pm

edit: In case anyone is wondering: the descents of the graphs should be linear but they're not, because the timescale at the bottom isn't linear either. It's just certain milliseconds at which "stuff happens" lined up on a scale.


Just a suggestion to improve your graphics. :)

When "X" does not have a regular spacing, use scatter plots. That places each pair "X, Y" in its correct position.

If you use line or bar graphs the value "X" is not a coordinate, it is a category. And if you have the values 1,3,7,15 (for instance), you will have four categories spaced regularly and not located in those values of the "X" axis.

I don't know if Google Sheets allows to link points with lines in scatter plots. EXCEL permits it.

Thank you for the suggestion! I managed to get my hands on Excel during work today and boy, it's so much better than Google Sheets (at least for diagrams).
Here's my improved version with some info added to the image after the fact to make it more readable:

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Friday, December 16th 2016, 6:23pm

edit: In case anyone is wondering: the descents of the graphs should be linear but they're not, because the timescale at the bottom isn't linear either. It's just certain milliseconds at which "stuff happens" lined up on a scale.


Just a suggestion to improve your graphics. :)

When "X" does not have a regular spacing, use scatter plots. That places each pair "X, Y" in its correct position.

If you use line or bar graphs the value "X" is not a coordinate, it is a category. And if you have the values 1,3,7,15 (for instance), you will have four categories spaced regularly and not located in those values of the "X" axis.

I don't know if Google Sheets allows to link points with lines in scatter plots. EXCEL permits it.

Thank you for the suggestion! I managed to get my hands on Excel during work today and boy, it's so much better than Google Sheets (at least for diagrams).
Here's my improved version with some info added to the image after the fact to make it more readable:

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Thursday, February 9th 2017, 1:54pm

For SMG's a burst length of 7-9 Bullets is the best amount of burst to keep spread small?
Are there any charts for the most useful range to shoot at.

Like Hold down LMB up to 40 meters use a 9 burst after that, and at longer range use 7 burst.

I primarily use the MP18 Trench as my choice of SMG-

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Thursday, February 9th 2017, 3:29pm

For SMG's a burst length of 7-9 Bullets is the best amount of burst to keep spread small?
Are there any charts for the most useful range to shoot at.

Like Hold down LMB up to 40 meters use a 9 burst after that, and at longer range use 7 burst.

I primarily use the MP18 Trench as my choice of SMG-


I'm not sure why this has been suggested in this thread. The only reason to ever stop shooting an lmg is because the target broke line of sight or the target is dead (or maybe you ran out of mouse pad to counter vertical recoil). Some of the suggestions in this thread assume a player doesn't control horizontal recoil, which is clearly not true.

TL;DR Don't fire lmg in bursts

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Thursday, February 9th 2017, 3:33pm

Ahmahgawd that second chart in second spoiler, asdlkamnflgksd I am even more convinced now you either are wizard with these colors and styles (or you are very patient when it comes to making these correctly).

But on the serious note: This indeed matches to what game seems to be after: instead of having tapfiring/short bursts as best option always, some weapons benefit from doing longer bursts but magdump is still not effective.

Two questions:
  1. What were the assumptions how player controls h recoil? Vertical can be learned and done "optimially", but horizontal is bit iffy.
  2. What distribution did you use for the spread? I think we had discussion about this but in Battlefield 1 the spread is not uniform inside circle, it has bit focus on the middle. See "Spread" here.


Spread is even over the area.

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Thursday, February 9th 2017, 3:37pm

@marbleduck

That was before we/I knew that :v. This is one of the reasons why necroing is bad.

I am going to close this thread for necroing. Please check date of latest post before posting (if +1 month since latest post, then reconsider posting).

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Links to users' thread list who have made analytical/statistical/mathematical/cool posts on Symthic:
  • 3VerstsNorth - Analysis of game mechanics in BF4 (tickrates, effects of tickrate, etc)
  • leptis - Analysis of shotguns, recoil, recoil control and air drag.
  • Veritable - Scoring of BF4/BF1 firearms in terms of usability, firing and other mechanics.
  • Miffyli - Random statistical analysis of BF4 battlereports/players and kill-distances. (list is cluttered with other threads).
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