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Tuesday, March 21st 2017, 7:42am

Rank 10 variants aren't even "pay-walled", I don't know how you came to that conclusion. They are an addition in the CTE and will be included in the next base-game update. I bet they were supposed to be added before the game launched, but didn't make it in for one reason or another, with different unlock criteria but now that it's 5 months into the release DICE settled for a "grind-wall" so that they were still a challenge to unlock. What would be the point if the variants were easier to get than the originals? A variant is still a different enough weapon that it requires some effort to attain and absolutely should have a similar challenge associated with them just as it was a challenge to reach rank 10 with each class.
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho

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Tuesday, March 21st 2017, 7:44am

How is 300 kills a grind? Have you guys ever played wow? At least it doesn't require 1250 kills like in hardline.
If you really try hard you can finish this on day one. 300 kills is fast enough.

Anything that takes longer than a round or two is a grind when you have to use a gun you don't like.
Personally I can't aim worth a damn with iron sights so getting 300 kills with the 1906 factory would be amazingly frustrating. The 1906 sniper OTOH seems like I gun I'd really enjoy, but with that kind of unlock requirement I'll try to pretend it doesn't exist.
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Tuesday, March 21st 2017, 7:48am

How is 300 kills a grind? Have you guys ever played wow? At least it doesn't require 1250 kills like in hardline.
If you really try hard you can finish this on day one. 300 kills is fast enough.

it's a grind when you take into consideration 2 factors:

1:it's a gun, not an accessory or a dogtag
2: the assignment themselves require to have a rank10 gun, which means it's double the grind.

i'll still do it probably, in fact, i see myself doing it to learn back how to play with a controller properly, but for most people it is an extreme grind, though not for me or many others who did all (or at least, most of them, in my case in which i got extremly distracted by the beauty of the m320fb) the mastery dog tags in bf3 and bf4 .
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Tuesday, March 21st 2017, 8:00am

Unlock whores complaining about the lack of progression, unlocks, and how easy it was to "complete/finish Battlefield 1" got their wish.
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Tuesday, March 21st 2017, 8:06am

Unlock whores complaining about the lack of progression, unlocks, and how easy it was to "complete/finish Battlefield 1" got their wish.

well i did stop playing for like a month or 2 after getting the last rank 10 weapon... but i wouldn't say that adding 3 attachmetns that take the equivalent of a bf3 mastery tag to unlock are really a fix for it, it can help, but not to such a great extent.

unlocking stuff feels good when you unlock a lot of stuff in a short amount of time, not when you have to grind for hours to unlock just one thing that may not even be good(that's pretty much why i never took on to my plan of playing cs:go or why i never finished goddamn dragon quest 8, though that one was a bit different)

for example, if instead of variants we had attachments, and each variant used 3 different attachments, it would feel better to unlock one attachment after every 100 kill than it would to unlock the full variant after 300
but that's completely hypothetical and purely an example to show the addicting psycology behind the joy of unlocking crap.
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Tuesday, March 21st 2017, 8:20am

The worst part is the Selbstlader 1906 Sniper and Huot Optical seem much more viable than their factory equivalents, the Hellriegel Defensive and Martini Henry Sniper seem kind of meme-y but the Selbstlader 1906 was basically built for a sniper variant, but I imagine most people will never experience it's awesome power because they won't be willing to grind for a week (or day depending on the capacity of your shibucket) with clunky irons on a weapon that only truly exceeds competition at long ranges.
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Tuesday, March 21st 2017, 8:38am

The worst part is the Selbstlader 1906 Sniper and Huot Optical seem much more viable than their factory equivalents, the Hellriegel Defensive and Martini Henry Sniper seem kind of meme-y but the Selbstlader 1906 was basically built for a sniper variant, but I imagine most people will never experience it's awesome power because they won't be willing to grind for a week (or day depending on the capacity of your shibucket) with clunky irons on a weapon that only truly exceeds competition at long ranges.

it around 3-4 hours to get 500 kills with a single weapon in bf4(usuallly op locker) i'd imagine it takes even less for 300 in bf1.
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Tuesday, March 21st 2017, 8:43am

So you know the 12g Automatic Backbored, a variant of the Shotgun that never gets used? Yeah, I just used it today and got over 100 kills in less than 2 hours playing CONQUEST (not trying to say that's good, it probably isn't), so I think everyone is blowing the whole "O.M.G. 300 killssssss?????" out of proportion and should be able to manage getting 3x that with weapons that aren't Shotguns on some of the largest maps available.

So what if it takes a combined 5-6 hours to unlock it; try a different approach and don't do it all at once. Set a milestone for each and transfer to something else when you've reached said milestone. No one's forcing you to do one set of criteria all at once other than yourself, and forcing it is just going to soil the experience.
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Tuesday, March 21st 2017, 8:58am

So you know the 12g Automatic Backbored, a variant of the Shotgun that never gets used? Yeah, I just used it today and got over 100 kills in less than 2 hours playing CONQUEST (not trying to say that's good, it probably isn't), so I think everyone is blowing the whole "O.M.G. 300 killssssss?????" out of proportion and should be able to manage getting 3x that with weapons that aren't Shotguns on some of the largest maps available.

So what if it takes a combined 5-6 hours to unlock it; try a different approach and don't do it all at once. Set a milestone for each and transfer to something else when you've reached said milestone. No one's forcing you to do one set of criteria all at once other than yourself, and forcing it is just going to soil the experience.
I play Assault and I average around 30-45 kills per round of Conquest. It's nothing compared to the level 10 grind, and nothing compared to the 20 MP 18 headshots lol.

And since you're using another variant of the gun you're trying to unlock, it's not like you're being forced to use a weapon you don't like to get the gun you want. I don't see any significant differences that would make anyone want the new unlocks if they don't like the level 10 variants.

That being said, I can't wait to get my hands on the new Hellriegel. With two bipoded Assault guns now I might never use Support again lol.

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Tuesday, March 21st 2017, 9:27am

So you know the 12g Automatic Backbored, a variant of the Shotgun that never gets used? Yeah, I just used it today and got over 100 kills in less than 2 hours playing CONQUEST (not trying to say that's good, it probably isn't), so I think everyone is blowing the whole "O.M.G. 300 killssssss?????" out of proportion and should be able to manage getting 3x that with weapons that aren't Shotguns on some of the largest maps available.

So what if it takes a combined 5-6 hours to unlock it; try a different approach and don't do it all at once. Set a milestone for each and transfer to something else when you've reached said milestone. No one's forcing you to do one set of criteria all at once other than yourself, and forcing it is just going to soil the experience.
I play Assault and I average around 30-45 kills per round of Conquest. It's nothing compared to the level 10 grind, and nothing compared to the 20 MP 18 headshots lol.

And since you're using another variant of the gun you're trying to unlock, it's not like you're being forced to use a weapon you don't like to get the gun you want. I don't see any significant differences that would make anyone want the new unlocks if they don't like the level 10 variants.

That being said, I can't wait to get my hands on the new Hellriegel. With two bipoded Assault guns now I might never use Support again lol.


Just remember that unlike MGs and the Ribeyrolle the Hellriegel fires a pistol cartridge so the bipod probably won't be THAT useful.
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