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CTE Patch 2 [3231681 - XP1] 20.2.2017: Offical Patch Notes, Symthic Changelog, New Weapons Discussion

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2017, 10:47am

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Most recoil values were tweaked, but are not comparable to previous releases

I don't see the issue with the patch notes. No numbers were mentioned because they are not comparable anyway.

Oh yeah wanted to quote you on that one as well.

I mean just look at the confusion it caused on this forum, Labby had to interfere just to clear the air. Some people knew this stat, albeit it was irrelevant, many had never heard of it, and JSLICE20 thinks that this is the pinnacle of gaming sciene. If it caused such confusion here, of course there will be a lot more on any media that does not have a file browser background and some deep mathematical understanding.

Labby, in his explanation, talked about a cubic function, if I recall correctly. Now obviously you must have studied something that involved higher mathematics, I haven't and can only remember vaguely what it was about. I kind of look at how DMRs worked in BF4 and interpreted the name of this "new" stat. Then I took Labby's post and my analysis and considered that this will might just be alright in the long run. I am a rather cognitive person, though.

Hence, I guess, there will be quite a lot more confusion once the patch hits Live. Everybody will look on symthic, while the regular player has no idea about cubic functions, but a recoil of 1.2° is something everybody is capable of imagining. This is a huge change for symthic though, because suddenly for the SLRs the stats do not quite reflect the performance anymore. This is further confusing because, for other classes, as I understand, nothing or very little changed. Although obviously it makes sense for the SLRs, since it makes balancing the whole class easier in the future, I guess.

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2017, 12:19pm

Quoted from "C0llis"

Re #5: even before the change it was possible to take out AA's head on if you came at them right and got shots on them really quickly

Shhhhhhhhhhhh

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If it flies, it dies™.

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2017, 2:26pm

Quoted from "Ritobasu"

3) Damaged AAs cannot even be repaired by a Wrench (anecdotal bit I heard from a Support friend who tried). If they are, you can refer back to #2.

I was able to repair AA on operations last night, but it was sometimes tough to find the "hitbox" for repair to work.

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2017, 4:13pm

The best way is just to go prone and repair the base. Especially if a gunner is on it.

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2017, 8:25pm

Quoted from "Dantheminigunfox"

I have some brief footage of the Chauchat in game. The servers were god awful and the gameplay with it is quite laggy. I will edit it and post it here if interested though.

Battlefield 1 Chauchat Machine Rifle - YouTube

The rounds actually deplete holy crap that's amazing. I've only seen this and the Lebel animations so far, but the DICE SE team really nailed them, I love it.

That said, you really didn't even bother to do an empty reload when recording it to show people?
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Wednesday, February 22nd 2017, 8:35pm

Quoted from "Rezal"

What about the fact that there is a dedicated AA vehicle?

Ha! You mean the Artillery variant that will never get chosen because players are too busy whoring the A7V, Landship, FT-17, and standard Artillery Truck (i.e. every vehicle but)? Good luck with that!

Quoted from "VincentNZ"

Some people knew this stat, albeit it was irrelevant, many had never heard of it, and JSLICE20 thinks that this is the pinnacle of gaming sciene.

Come again? I actually have no idea what you're talking about...
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Quoted from "Zer0Cod3x"

the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2\$ tho

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2017, 8:59pm

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Quoted from "Dantheminigunfox"

I have some brief footage of the Chauchat in game. The servers were god awful and the gameplay with it is quite laggy. I will edit it and post it here if interested though.

Battlefield 1 Chauchat Machine Rifle - YouTube

The rounds actually deplete holy crap that's amazing. I've only seen this and the Lebel animations so far, but the DICE SE team really nailed them, I love it.

That said, you really didn't even bother to do an empty reload when recording it to show people?
The empty reload is very subtle, 0.00 - 0.05 is an empty reload. It shows the clip holding the magazine being engaged by slapping the magazine. The Full reload is very smilar, minus that part. 0.13 is a full reload. It is quite easy to miss though.

And yes the bullets on the side go down, which I must say triggered a nerdgasm :]

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2017, 9:27pm

Quoted from "Dantheminigunfox"

The empty reload is very subtle, 0.00 - 0.05 is an empty reload. It shows the clip holding the magazine being engaged by slapping the magazine. The Full reload is very smilar, minus that part. 0.13 is a full reload. It is quite easy to miss though.

And yes the bullets on the side go down, which I must say triggered a nerdgasm :]

Derp, I even noticed something was different there. I'd forgotten that the Chauchat locks open when empty, which means (due to being an open bolt MG) the player actually has no reason to ever touch the charging handle. They could have made both reloads identical, but they added a little flair to the empty one, which is nice.
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Wednesday, February 22nd 2017, 9:35pm

Quoted from "Dantheminigunfox"

The empty reload is very subtle, 0.00 - 0.05 is an empty reload. It shows the clip holding the magazine being engaged by slapping the magazine. The Full reload is very smilar, minus that part. 0.13 is a full reload. It is quite easy to miss though.

And yes the bullets on the side go down, which I must say triggered a nerdgasm :]

Derp, I even noticed something was different there. I'd forgotten that the Chauchat locks open when empty, which means (due to being an open bolt MG) the player actually has no reason to ever touch the charging handle. They could have made both reloads identical, but they added a little flair to the empty one, which is nice.
Yea, its really evident that a lot of love went into this gun . It sounds very similar to its real life version being fired in Ian's video. I am not sure how relevant this is but the martini henry also sounds very similar to its real version.

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Wednesday, February 22nd 2017, 10:00pm

Quoted from "Rezal"

What about the fact that there is a dedicated AA vehicle?

Ha! You mean the Artillery variant that will never get chosen because players are too busy whoring the A7V, Landship, FT-17, and standard Artillery Truck (i.e. every vehicle but)? Good luck with that!

Quoted from "VincentNZ"

Some people knew this stat, albeit it was irrelevant, many had never heard of it, and JSLICE20 thinks that this is the pinnacle of gaming sciene.

Come again? I actually have no idea what you're talking about...

Ah I was just mocking you for the post you made before praising the symthic guys.