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Monday, February 20th 2017, 5:44pm

so the experimental now is pretty much a C93 with a bigger mag.


Thanks for this analogy.

From looking at the range numbers, will those also be the same as the C93? Can i pretty much use the TTK chart to see how the new Exp will stack up? The Exp has a bit of an edge as far as range right now.

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Monday, February 20th 2017, 6:15pm

so the experimental now is pretty much a C93 with a bigger mag.



Is that a problem tho?

Also, the RSC has a great 2HK range. You probably won't land it because of 2.2 total hRec though! Use of 53-38 is really good. Means that a single headshot will allow a single bodyshot to complete the follow-up. Better than the 35 minDamage I predicted.



Yeah remember what i said about "If the 2hk range".

Well, this gun has one amazing 2 hit kill range. Despite me not being that handy with the low mag SLR's, methinks this gun will see a lot of time in my hands.


Chauchat is a bad Auto 8 .35. Support got an Auto 8 .25 knock-off.


tbh I can life with that. The Chauchat looks great to me.

Ribeyrolles is the Lewis's ugly baby. Probably with the Huot.


Yes but the important distinction here is that it is an assault weapon.'


Lebel Sniper has a sweetspot utilizing a half-step (50-87.5). It's between the SMLE (40-75) and the 1895 (60-100).



The sniper version will probably be my go-to conquest sniper now.

Though, is that post-reload delay for real?

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Monday, February 20th 2017, 6:24pm

Basically you need exactly one second (1000 ms) to get back to 0.16 ADS base spread with the Chauchat Tele. Its 836 ms to 0.24 with the Low Weight variant.

1000 ms is the slowest value yet, even above the Benet-Mercie (933 ms). 836 is somewhere in the middle - about as fast as a MG15 LW or Lewis Supp. The fastest times in comparison are the Huot (631) and the BARs (600).




What you state(i didn't actually check math) is correct. IF you wanna be super correct gotta remember to account for frames. One frame at 60hz = 16ms iirc. for example 836ms(52.25 frames). Can't have .25 of frame. so 53 frames * 16ms = 848ms...roughly. I'm sure it would change a bit if you use all the decimals that a frames length is.

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Monday, February 20th 2017, 6:39pm

Basically you need exactly one second (1000 ms) to get back to 0.16 ADS base spread with the Chauchat Tele. Its 836 ms to 0.24 with the Low Weight variant.

1000 ms is the slowest value yet, even above the Benet-Mercie (933 ms). 836 is somewhere in the middle - about as fast as a MG15 LW or Lewis Supp. The fastest times in comparison are the Huot (631) and the BARs (600).


What you state(i didn't actually check math) is correct. IF you wanna be super correct gotta remember to account for frames. One frame at 60hz = 16ms iirc. for example 836ms(52.25 frames). Can't have .25 of frame. so 53 frames * 16ms = 848ms...roughly. I'm sure it would change a bit if you use all the decimals that a frames length is.


Awesome! Only accounting for 16ms gaps makes it easier to track all those numbers in my (bloated) excel sheet. Thank you!

BTW - I think the Chauchat in this form is better used with single shots instead full auto unless you're close range. Which really makes it more like a medic weapon for supports.

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Monday, February 20th 2017, 6:57pm

Added missing FN1903 Extended to the list of weapons.
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Monday, February 20th 2017, 7:42pm

Soo, how do the Automatico changes turn out you think?

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Monday, February 20th 2017, 8:31pm

This makes me cringe
WHY ON G_DS GREEN EARTH would they nerf factory SLRS??????
Also some of the stats of the new weapons really do concern me. I will have to make a thread on this
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Monday, February 20th 2017, 9:40pm

Yeah remember what i said about "If the 2hk range".

Well, this gun has one amazing 2 hit kill range.


Hence why I said "You don't even know."
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Monday, February 20th 2017, 10:19pm

Why would they decrease the hrec of the MG15 from .7 to .3, I wonder. I mean it was one of the most used LMGs anyway, now it basically compares to a reverse RPK-12. Or did I mix this up with the elite class LMG?

Anyhow the changes to the SLRs are unneeded, the weapon class was balanced enough. They obviously want to penalize the use of the popular weapons and encourage the use of others. I see that goes at the cost of overall balance. Anyhow these are CTE changes and drastic changes are to be expected more here, so things are subject to change.

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Monday, February 20th 2017, 11:04pm

Or did I mix this up with the elite class LMG?

Would you look at that. An hRec buff for the MG08/15.
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