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Saturday, February 25th 2017, 9:36pm

What is the point of adding a shit weapon no one but Virtual Armory fans would use?
What's saying that the extra variants would be useless?

Surely 3 instead of 2 variants for the DLC guns could still be balanced? And surely there is room, balance wise, for variants for the level 10 guns, who are all very unique.

The only real issue I can see is that the weapon list in the class customization screen would fill up very quickly, but that is a UI issue and not a balance issue.

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And reading Youtube comments still gives me Turbo Cancer.

It really is quite frustrating when Helen Keller sets up her LMG in the only doorway in/out of an area.

What kind of question is that? Since when is cheese ever a bad idea?

Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

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Saturday, February 25th 2017, 9:49pm

Ever think that maybe, just maybe a Trench Chauchat would be too good? It already kills faster than the BAR, which is designed for close to semi-medium range, so does it need an extra Hip-fire boost as well? No, no it does not.


If, if, it's too good, then Storm or Optical. There's a ton of options that would work for all of them.
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Saturday, February 25th 2017, 9:54pm

Ever think that maybe, just maybe a Trench Chauchat would be too good? It already kills faster than the BAR, which is designed for close to semi-medium range, so does it need an extra Hip-fire boost as well? No, no it does not.


If, if, it's too good, then Storm or Optical. There's a ton of options that would work for all of them.
Then we're back to adding weapons for the sake of adding weapons, issue.

The base game has some totally underused weapons as it is. We don't need more of them.

What you really want is maximum "true" choice, not a huge virtual armory that is only useful if you get off on playing virtual dress up with lots of different guns.

BF3 armory was a disaster, BF4 armory was a bit less of a disaster, BF1 armory is even less of a disaster so far.

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Sunday, February 26th 2017, 12:33am

the only reason i don't use certain weapons in bf1 is because i am utterly incapable of using them to their fullest potential, but can you guess which ones?

no you can't.
...though just because i have nothing else to do i'll say it: it's all of the mainstream guns(with a couple exceptions): the automatico, the mp18, the BAR(to an extent), the russian 1895, all of the sniper variants, the 1907...
but have i NEVER used them? hell no, i used all of them, i enjoy them less, and thus play with them less, but overall i play with all of them, and saying "you're just an exception" isn't a good argument, because at that point we should think about what's dice's philosophy in regards to customer's appreciation, do they want to make the game feel good for everyone or just for some people?
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longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

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Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
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Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

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Sunday, February 26th 2017, 12:39am

BF4 armory was a bit less of a disaster


No, BF4 was an even bigger disaster because it had a larger possible combination space and still only had 1 (2 at most) optimal set-ups out of those ~140 combinations per gun.
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Reddit and Konami will rewrite the records... And I will be demonized in human memory. But... The thirst for good gameplay that I have planted will infest MGO3. No one can stop it now. The Rebalance Mod will unleash that thirst unto the future.


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Sunday, February 26th 2017, 12:46am

i'll also be honest and go a bit in the real of the ridiculous, but i'm also of th eopinion that all sniper rifles should have at least one variant per scope,everyone feels better with a sight over the other, even if for some people using ironsights at 500 meters is crazy or a scope at close range stupid, some people just play better that way because they prefer those sights, and while this isn't that big of aproblem with other weapons, sniper rifles are much more sensible to sight choices, in fact, i almost never use the 1895 because of that very reason: the ironsights suck, and i hate with my whole self the sniper scope, though i do aknowledge that the gun has a point in the game, would you at that point say that adding a marksman variant to the game would be redundant? but it'd make me use a gun that i almost never use compared to the other ones, and in any case, the 1895 is possibly the rifle in that class which might benefit from a marksman variant the most.
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bf4
on 13/05/2016
23rd M320FB user on pc(13/05/16)
rush mode score RANK:2794 TOP:2% OUT OF:215398
obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

bf3
31/3/2012 4:58:

Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
MVP ribbons RANK:18824 TOP:11%

*= 6 if we not count the EOD BOT headshots

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Sunday, February 26th 2017, 2:15am

BF4 armory was a bit less of a disaster


No, BF4 was an even bigger disaster because it had a larger possible combination space and still only had 1 (2 at most) optimal set-ups out of those ~140 combinations per gun.
At the end of the day BF4 had far more viable/optimal weapon loadouts though. So sure, it had more false choices, but once you actually understood the attachment mechanics, you were still left with more viable choices in the end relative to the holy trinity in BF3.

I especially preferred the carbine and PDW balance in BF4 over the mess outside of the assault trinity.

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Sunday, March 5th 2017, 11:03pm

Can anyone who uses the Automatico Factory regularly in the base game confirm how much of an impact the CTE nerf-buff had on its usability?

I switched from the Storm to the Factory to 'nerf' myself when I heard the Storm was getting nerfed only to find that I actually really preferred (or at least, enjoyed myself a lot more) using the Factory variant in the long run.

Thanks. :D

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Tuesday, March 7th 2017, 9:02pm

Some belated thoughts on the grenade changes, I think the new mini grenade sounds a bit boring, compared to what it could be.

Instead of one every 24s, what if we had two, each with an independent cooldown of 48s. Meaning you can throw two every 48s, or one every 24th second (or something inbetween). Sounds a lot more interesting to me than it being a weaker but more frequent frag, as it still isn't going to be as good at killing people, but can be used more effectively for controlling enemy movement.

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When I play with it [Autoloading 8] I feel like I am batman taking out 1 after 1 baddie while they feel helpless and don't know who is talking out their mates.
Remove 3D spotting. It’s a mechanic that rewards bad eyesight.
Wanna help your team by sneaking through enemy territory to provide spawns? THIS IS NOT TEAMWORK FGT I HOPE YOU RUN OUT OF MOTION BALLS TOO EARLY TO BE SUCCESSFUL
Wanna be Javelin squad but only have two guys? BETTER NOT GET YOUR SOFLAM KILLED FGT THIS IS NOT TEAMWORK WITHOUT A SUPPORT DUDE DROPPING AMMO ON YOU EVERY 2 MINUTES
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Squadmate Healthbars in the HUD
Minor console QoL improvements
Ping Tool idea
"Wants to talk" tag for squad menu
Adding Suppression Confirmation
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Squad priority vehicle system (and anti stealing suggestion)
Scoring system flaws (and concept)
Battlefield definition
New helicopter idea
Suppression rework
Flow, immersion and fun in battlefield
Specializations: ideas and system rework
Gadget reworks and ideas
Why limited infinite ammo would be awesome
Other bitesize ideas



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Friday, March 10th 2017, 12:09am

As far as grenade changes, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they nerf every single grenade BESIDES the frag, which is WAY ahead of every other choice already? Does that make sense to anyone else?