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Sensitivity settings, and how they're broken

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: Dec 23rd 2017

Platform: Xbox One

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Thursday, February 1st 2018, 1:53pm

Quoted from "NotThePrez"

Ok, I'm confused by the 167% part of this. So, using your example, 25% Soilder Stick Sensitivity sould be mated wit a 83% Zoom sensitivity. What if I ran with a 35% Stick sensitivity?

Or perhaps a better question, is there some kind of formula to determine an ideal Zoom sensitivity using the 167% rule?

As far as I can tell, Soldier/Vehicle Stick Sensitivity doesn't matter at all (use whatever you like), it's just Soldier Zoom Sensitivity that's weird on console with 166.6666% being a true 1:1 match. Having it set to 167% is 100%, and 0% is still 0%, so it just scales normally between them.

If you want 1.0x ADS to move at the same speed as hipfire, use 167%. If you want 1.0x ADS to move at half the speed of hipfire (as I have it), use 83% (half of 166.6666). Just do 166.6666 times how much slower you want it. 166.6666 x 0.5 for 50%, or x 0.75 for 75%, etc.

This part is entirely independent of UsA and the whole coefficient thing.
Ah, Gotcha.

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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 5:54pm

Quoted from "TheNoobPolice"

You should probably clarify your post that this is only for Console, so as to prevent PC players perhaps getting misinformation.

PC works fine as intended with the settings doing what they should.

As far as I would expect on Console, the screen space distance modifier (UsA coefficient) should synchronise turn-rate velocity at full pitch on the stick for any given base sensitivity to screen space across different FOVs. Since max pitch (since BF1 calculates everything from Vertcial, not horizontal FOV) is the only absolute. Gamepad input always features some element of acceleration in how they work at any other position apart from max, making synchronisation impossible when the stick is some point at halfway.

If Julian Manolov has decided to do use a different method for BF1 on Console for UsA than BF4, then I'm not sure what would make more sense, but maybe there is a reason. Have you asked him?

On PC in BF1, even UsA off uses base FOV for ADS turn-rate calculations (just with a 100% fixed coefficient, rather than 133) so UsA is not as necessary as it was in BF4, although it does still help with calculating ADS sens transitions which is still essential in my opinion, although people have different ideas.
sometimes it's easy to forget that there exists people that play first person shooter games on consoles with a controller

Don't be dense, his point is that PC players are seeing this and thinking it applies to them as well.

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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 6:23pm

Quoted from "TheNoobPolice"

You should probably clarify your post that this is only for Console, so as to prevent PC players perhaps getting misinformation.

PC works fine as intended with the settings doing what they should.

As far as I would expect on Console, the screen space distance modifier (UsA coefficient) should synchronise turn-rate velocity at full pitch on the stick for any given base sensitivity to screen space across different FOVs. Since max pitch (since BF1 calculates everything from Vertcial, not horizontal FOV) is the only absolute. Gamepad input always features some element of acceleration in how they work at any other position apart from max, making synchronisation impossible when the stick is some point at halfway.

If Julian Manolov has decided to do use a different method for BF1 on Console for UsA than BF4, then I'm not sure what would make more sense, but maybe there is a reason. Have you asked him?

On PC in BF1, even UsA off uses base FOV for ADS turn-rate calculations (just with a 100% fixed coefficient, rather than 133) so UsA is not as necessary as it was in BF4, although it does still help with calculating ADS sens transitions which is still essential in my opinion, although people have different ideas.
sometimes it's easy to forget that there exists people that play first person shooter games on consoles with a controller

Don't be dense, his point is that PC players are seeing this and thinking it applies to them as well.
that was my point as well

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Friday, February 2nd 2018, 10:19pm

Quoted from "TheNoobPolice"

You should probably clarify your post that this is only for Console, so as to prevent PC players perhaps getting misinformation.

PC works fine as intended with the settings doing what they should.

As far as I would expect on Console, the screen space distance modifier (UsA coefficient) should synchronise turn-rate velocity at full pitch on the stick for any given base sensitivity to screen space across different FOVs. Since max pitch (since BF1 calculates everything from Vertcial, not horizontal FOV) is the only absolute. Gamepad input always features some element of acceleration in how they work at any other position apart from max, making synchronisation impossible when the stick is some point at halfway.

If Julian Manolov has decided to do use a different method for BF1 on Console for UsA than BF4, then I'm not sure what would make more sense, but maybe there is a reason. Have you asked him?

On PC in BF1, even UsA off uses base FOV for ADS turn-rate calculations (just with a 100% fixed coefficient, rather than 133) so UsA is not as necessary as it was in BF4, although it does still help with calculating ADS sens transitions which is still essential in my opinion, although people have different ideas.
sometimes it's easy to forget that there exists people that play first person shooter games on consoles with a controller

Don't be dense, his point is that PC players are seeing this and thinking it applies to them as well.
that was my point as well

Ohhhhhh, I get what you meant now.

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Saturday, February 3rd 2018, 4:20am

Thanks for doing this. I suppose I will try this. I have done o so much testing trying to figure out about USA. I will say for what's it worth I got the 166% calculation just like u and half of that for 50% ads. I even found better results with timing the counterstrike and overwatch multiplier which was something like. .42 something. I did not get the exact results with the coefficient as u so I will give that a try.

I will say no matter what I tried I could not get uniform aiming to feel right for both my main scope magnifications at 1.25/2x/4x/8x. What was the best I could get was settings I got from a YouTubers and have my main ads sensitivity at 60% and main hip 100% with the advanced ads sensitivity for 1.25 at 25% 2x at 35% 4x at 65% and 8x at 100% and uniform soldier off. Also a 10% dead one.

Took some time to get used to but by far the best settings I have had. I am on console by the way so your mileage may vary

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