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Saturday, September 2nd 2017, 12:59pm

Doing this at the end of the game's already significantly reduced lifecycle is an appropriate use of funds.


Would you mind to explain that sentence to me?

I dont know yet if it is being sarcastic or not and why TTK rebalancing is a bad idea. IMHO any balancing at any time no matter the use of funds behind is appreciated as a consumer.
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Saturday, September 2nd 2017, 1:01pm

Why did the Hellriegel get buffed you ask? Because it would be even more garbage than it already is if it didn't. Compared to the MP18, Ribeyrolles, and Maxim it has a very short 4 BTK range with only 26.5 max damage, plus limb shots fuck its 4 BTK at its ~25 damage range which is also much closer than the other SMGs' 25 damage range. A dev also mentioned that the 28 vs. 26.5 max damage is a big difference in terms of HS BTKs. 28: 1 HS + 2 BSs = ded | 26.5: 1 HS + 2 BSs = not ded. If the MP18 somehow wasn't a straight upgrade to the Hellriegel before the DPS buff then it sure as shit is now.


I've never understood how a weapon that fires 100RPM slower with half the mag capacity can be seen as a straight upgrade, but maybe that's just me.

The Hellriegel will now have an effective RoF of 867RPM if you equated its TTK with a 5 hit kill SMG. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Hellriegel's 50% of Assault usage statistic will now absorb the Automatico users as well.
Hellriegel has the worst hipfire accuracy in SMG class and his Hrec is... annoying. Any enemy with any Trench weapon would guarantee you a lot of PAIN when fighting with him. On PC it's a pretty innacurate weapon, so i prefer Devensive variant due to HUGE magazine and sometimes useful bipod.
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Saturday, September 2nd 2017, 1:14pm

Doing this at the end of the game's already significantly reduced lifecycle is an appropriate use of funds.

Sheepy, don' be sho shalty.

You'll get your turn next BF. :3
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Saturday, September 2nd 2017, 2:05pm

Doing this at the end of the game's already significantly reduced lifecycle is an appropriate use of funds.

Sheepy, don' be sho shalty.

You'll get your turn next BF. :3

T.T Hmpf

It has been 4 years since the last acceptable entry. Eh


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Thanks for the heads up!
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Hardline is a fun and sometimes silly Cops and Robbers sorta thing and I think that's great. Or it would be if it didn't suck.

>littlebird passanger, semi-auto frag rounds
>gunship OP

Meanwhile at DICE-headquarters during BF4's release:

I'm pretty sure there's a massive post-it on every desk "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING"

UCAV:
"Hey guys remember how stupid prenerf mav was?"

"Lets add c4 to it."

The World Champion went to China once.

They called me a Gweilo.

So I kicked a big fucking hole in their wall and let all the Mongolians in.

just thought I'd share.


The thought of Assaults running out of ACE 23 rounds mid firefight, Engineers facing the rear of an unaware MBT with no rockets left, Recons unable to...Whatever the fuck they do. These are the things that keep me up at night ;(


About hunturk:
I don't know what's funnier, the video itself of the fact that an unlisted video has more views than most of your normal videos :P

...


You just live to hit people upside the noggin with a Math Bomb, don't you?

[context] Maybe it's the UK's overly aggressive porn filter at work. After all, it does have the word "monkey" in it and monkeys have been known to have sex so...


Previously, at DICE HQ:
"Ok guys, the password is "epic dream worlds"; everyone take a letter and do your best to turn it into into something random that we can put into a picture!"


I assume a functional game (BF4) also.

Aww!
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So cute!


But but but

He's a Youtuber ;(

There's no way he doesn't know what he's talking about


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Saturday, September 2nd 2017, 2:25pm

The Hellriegel always felt like the best SMG in the game by a huge margin. At least to me on console. Everybody and their mom was using it.

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Saturday, September 2nd 2017, 6:33pm

The Medic class does not solely exist to ram needles into people and be an HP dispensary, it's also all-range, combat-focused rifleman. It's not supposed to have the best CQB weaponry because that would be blatantly overpowered in combination with the medical tools. Keep your teammates alive and they'll help keep you alive with their more CQB-oriented weapons.

That said, we do really need the SLR RoF buffs that were supposed to come along with the TTK shift.
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Saturday, September 2nd 2017, 7:30pm

Assault is still going to be the most used class by a large margin.

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Sunday, September 3rd 2017, 2:12am

Assaults and supports still remain the best at close range, but medics really dominate mid range since the buff. It's really insane, I'm glad people complain about medics being trash, allowing this to go live. The spread decrease buff and the 2/3 hits kill at 70m leave no chance for any enemy except OHK by sniper rifles. They just gave us the same TTK at mid range than at close range for medic.

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Sunday, September 3rd 2017, 2:35am

I still think we need the SLR RoF buffs, but that's definitely encouraging, hopefully we console players get to test this soon.


For reference, they would look like this:

- 200rpm: RSC
- 257rpm: M1916
- 300rpm: Mondragon
- 360rpm: M1907, Cei-Rigotti, Liu, M1906
- 450rpm: Avtomat, Rem 8
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Sunday, September 3rd 2017, 3:08am

A RoF buff for SLRs is exactly what we don't want actually. Doing so makes them too competitive against the newly buffed SMGs and MGs, especially the MGs. While the DPS buff was, yes, made to give automatics more variation, free up design space for future weapons, and reduce player agency it also further differentiates MG DPS and SLR DPS giving them more distinct roles instead of blending all too often.

Since MGs fire their 1st bullet at min spread and then regain min spread after 5-7 shots their close range DPS is all they have to compete until returning to min spread for mid range. Buffing SLR RoF just negates that. With this change we are now finally free of the competitive DPS at all relevant engagement distances that BF3/4 ARs were notorious for. Because in all honesty, SLRs pre-DPS buff still basically had AR DPS. Now their DPS is geared for their specialized mid range which is where they should be, not fiddling around with SMGs and MGs.

"But the gadgets indicate that the Medic has to be on the frontlines."

No. Players just need to adapt and drop the mindset that these need to be ARs for a Medic role. Granted it has been nearly a year of players effectively using SLRs as ARs, but the time's they are a-changin'. For the better.
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho