Quoted from "Zer0Cod3x"

The addition of FSSM isn't actually all that different from previous BF titles. It's essentially linear spread increase with the added option of being able to single tap shots at range.

Yes, single tapping shots is not all that effective, and it is not supposed to be effective. At the range where single shots are effective, you're way outside of your SMG's effective range. However, at least you do have the option to hit targets at range now, whereas in previous titles you couldn't, even with tapfire for.


Negative SIPS is a good idea, however, the way it's implemented in BF1 is, IMO, incredibly boring. Without a recoil system that poses any real difficulty, LMGs are quite literally point and click weapons.

In order for negative SIPS to be well implemented, I think there needs to be some sort of recoil system that's far more complicated than the one currently in BF1.

Quoted from "sid_tai"

The tapping is too slow to be effective in my experience

Quoted from "/u/DICE-RandomDeviation"

SMGs and LMGs have a first shot multiplier applied to spread increase, in the same way BF1 and previous games have a first shot multiplier applied to recoil.

What this means for gameplay is the SMGs are more accurate on their first shot from previous games, but that shot incurs high spread increase, while following shots have very low spread increase. Effectively it's spread increase per burst for SMGs. What this means is that SMGs lose DPS as they make their bursts shorter.

Here's some made up numbers to simply explain the design behind it. Say we have a weapon that takes 1 frame to reset the spread increase of a single shot. Firing a five round burst would mean we'd need 5 frames to recover to min spread. Alternatively we could shoot one shot, spend 1 frame recovering, and repeat that 4 more times. The total time spent is still 5 frames, but all shots were fired at min spread. Why would I ever shoot a longer burst? Microbursting allows for the same effective DPS, while avoiding spread increase.

If instead we apply a first shot spread increase multiplier, say 2 for this example, what happens is this:

For a five round burst it takes 2 frames to recover from the first shot and 1 for each of the following for a total of 6 frames. 5 single shots take 2 frames each to recover for a total of 10 frames. There's now actually a reason to vary burst lengths. Very short bursts or single shots retain their accuracy but require more recovery time. Longer bursts are less accurate, but have higher DPS if they're still accurate enough to hit. This makes these SMGs excellent at close range with longer bursts, and allows them to be accurate enough to get hits with short bursts or single shots at longer ranges but with a DPS reduction that stops them from being too good outside their intended range.

In short, FSSM makes it so microbursting at all ranges isn't the optimal way to use a weapon, and makes using different burst rates at different ranges more effective.

For LMGs it's a little different, spread "increase" per shot is negative, meaning it actually decreases, and the FSSM is also negative, making the first shot's spread positive. The first shot of an LMG will be accurate, but incur a large spread penalty, each successive shot regains accuracy, usually getting back to min spread around the 6th shot.

Quoted from "sid_tai"

But I find this argument flawed. In that example, you need 9 frames to put out 5 single taps. However in a close enough range, I would magdump you and kill you in 5 frames, and you won't be able to put out your 4th and 5th shot.