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Wednesday, May 17th 2017, 8:25pm

Ranking Everything in BF1 Redux

Sorry for the double-thread. I tried going back to update the 1st thread, but the edited post went over the 70000 per-post "character limit" for this forum.

Not much of a preface here. 10% time needed to deploy the weapon, 50% time needed to shoot-and-recover in order to reach Damage Target, 10% time needed for projectiles to hit the target, 10% time needed to reload the spent projectiles, 5% V-Recoil Per Second, 5% H-Recoil Per Second, 5% Recoil FSM, 5% Recoil Recovery Rate.

25 Hipfire Not Moving stances, 1m to 25m, 1m increments. 25 Hipfire Moving stances, 1m to 25m, 1m increments. 25 ADS Moving stances, 3m to 75m, 3m increments. 25 ADS Not Moving stances, 5m to 125m, 5m increments. Total stances 100. Average distance 32.5m.

Burst Length differs per stance, where the shooter shoots until Hitrate drops below 25%, then stops to recover Spread, before repeating.

Damage Target 200.

Google Sheets: Scoring Everything in BF1 - Dynamic Burst Length - Google Sheets

Due to the number of entries, instead of charts, I'm putting the ranking lists as texts behind the Spoilers. Just click on the section that you're interested in, then perhaps use the Find function of your browser to highlight the name you are looking for. Names are straight from Symthic BF1 Weapon Stats.

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"Bestgun," considering all classes and all stances: Primary - BAR 1918 Trench (Support), Secondary - Frommer Stop (Scout)
Assault Class: Primary - Automatico M1918 Factory, Secondary - 1903 Hammerless
Medic Class: Primary - Autoloading 8 .35 Factory, Secondary - Taschenpistole M1914
Scout Class: Primary - M1903 Experimental, Secondary - Frommer Stop
Support Class: Primary - BAR 1918 Trench, Secondary - Beretta M1915

All Stances


All Classes


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. BAR 1918 Trench (Support) (Primary)
  2. BAR 1918 Storm (Support) (Primary)
  3. Madsen MG Trench (Support) (Primary)
  4. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  5. Madsen MG Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  6. Automatico M1918 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  7. Madsen MG Storm (Support) (Primary)
  8. Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault) (Primary)
  9. Chauchat Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  10. Chauchat Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  11. MP 18 Experimental (Assault) (Primary)
  12. 12g Automatic Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  13. MP 18 Trench (Assault) (Primary)
  14. 12g Automatic Backbored (Assault) (Primary)
  15. MP 18 Optical (Assault) (Primary)
  16. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Support) (Primary)
  17. Automatico M1918 Storm (Assault) (Primary)
  18. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Support) (Primary)
  19. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  20. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  21. Huot Automatic Optical (Support) (Primary)
  22. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Medic) (Primary)
  23. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  24. Lewis Gun Optical (Support) (Primary)
  25. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  26. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  27. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  28. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Support) (Primary)
  29. M1907 SL Trench (Medic) (Primary)
  30. 12g Automatic Extended (Assault) (Primary)
  31. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Medic) (Primary)
  32. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Medic) (Primary)
  33. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  34. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  35. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  36. M1907 SL Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  37. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  38. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Medic) (Primary)
  39. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Assault) (Primary)
  40. M1907 SL Sweeper (Medic) (Primary)
  41. Mondragon Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  42. Frommer Stop (Scout) (Secondary)
  43. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  44. Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic) (Secondary)
  45. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  46. MG15 N.A. Storm (Support) (Primary)
  47. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  48. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Medic) (Primary)
  49. 1903 Hammerless (Assault) (Secondary)
  50. M1903 Experimental (Scout) (Primary)
  51. Beretta M1915 (Support) (Secondary)
  52. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Support) (Primary)
  53. Mondragon Storm (Medic) (Primary)
  54. Mle M1903 (All) (Secondary)
  55. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Assault) (Primary)
  56. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Scout) (Primary)
  57. Steyr M1912 (Support) (Secondary)
  58. Borchard C93 (All) (Secondary)
  59. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Scout) (Primary)
  60. Mars Automatic Pistol (Scout) (Secondary)
  61. Model 10-A Slug (Assault) (Primary)
  62. Mondragon Sniper (Medic) (Primary)
  63. RSC 1917 Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  64. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  65. P08 Pistol (All) (Secondary)
  66. Russian 1895 Trench (Scout) (Primary)
  67. RSC 1917 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  68. Mauser C96 (Medic) (Secondary)
  69. M1911 (All) (Secondary)
  70. Bulldog (Support) (Secondary)
  71. Bodeo 1889 (Scout) (Secondary)
  72. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  73. Russian 1895 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  74. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  75. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  76. Howdah Pistol (Assault) (Secondary)
  77. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  78. Russian 1895 Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  79. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  80. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  81. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  82. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  83. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  84. Gasser M1870 (Assault) (Secondary)
  85. Auto revolver (Medic) (Secondary)
  86. Model 10-A Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  87. No. 3 Revolver (All) (Secondary)
  88. Model 10-A Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  89. Martini-Henry Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  90. Martini-Henry Sniper (Scout) (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. BAR 1918 Trench (Support)
  2. BAR 1918 Storm (Support)
  3. Madsen MG Trench (Support)
  4. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Support)
  5. Madsen MG Low Weight (Support)
  6. Automatico M1918 Factory (Assault)
  7. Madsen MG Storm (Support)
  8. Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault)
  9. Chauchat Low Weight (Support)
  10. Chauchat Telescopic (Support)
  11. MP 18 Experimental (Assault)
  12. 12g Automatic Hunter (Assault)
  13. MP 18 Trench (Assault)
  14. 12g Automatic Backbored (Assault)
  15. MP 18 Optical (Assault)
  16. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Support)
  17. Automatico M1918 Storm (Assault)
  18. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Support)
  19. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Medic)
  20. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Support)
  21. Huot Automatic Optical (Support)
  22. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Medic)
  23. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Support)
  24. Lewis Gun Optical (Support)
  25. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Support)
  26. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Medic)
  27. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Assault)
  28. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Support)
  29. M1907 SL Trench (Medic)
  30. 12g Automatic Extended (Assault)
  31. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Medic)
  32. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Medic)
  33. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Assault)
  34. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Assault)
  35. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Support)
  36. M1907 SL Factory (Medic)
  37. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Medic)
  38. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Medic)
  39. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Assault)
  40. M1907 SL Sweeper (Medic)
  41. Mondragon Optical (Medic)
  42. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Medic)
  43. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Medic)
  44. MG15 N.A. Storm (Support)
  45. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Medic)
  46. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Medic)
  47. M1903 Experimental (Scout)
  48. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Support)
  49. Mondragon Storm (Medic)
  50. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Assault)
  51. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Scout)
  52. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Scout)
  53. Model 10-A Slug (Assault)
  54. Mondragon Sniper (Medic)
  55. RSC 1917 Optical (Medic)
  56. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Assault)
  57. Russian 1895 Trench (Scout)
  58. RSC 1917 Factory (Medic)
  59. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Scout)
  60. Russian 1895 Infantry (Scout)
  61. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Scout)
  62. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Scout)
  63. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Scout)
  64. Russian 1895 Sniper (Scout)
  65. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Scout)
  66. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Scout)
  67. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Scout)
  68. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Scout)
  69. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Scout)
  70. Model 10-A Factory (Assault)
  71. Model 10-A Hunter (Assault)
  72. Martini-Henry Infantry (Scout)
  73. Martini-Henry Sniper (Scout)


Secondaries Only


  1. Frommer Stop (Scout)
  2. Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic)
  3. 1903 Hammerless (Assault)
  4. Beretta M1915 (Support)
  5. Mle M1903 (All)
  6. Steyr M1912 (Support)
  7. Borchard C93 (All)
  8. Mars Automatic Pistol (Scout)
  9. P08 Pistol (All)
  10. Mauser C96 (Medic)
  11. M1911 (All)
  12. Bulldog (Support)
  13. Bodeo 1889 (Scout)
  14. Howdah Pistol (Assault)
  15. Gasser M1870 (Assault)
  16. Auto revolver (Medic)
  17. No. 3 Revolver (All)



Assault Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Automatico M1918 Factory (Primary)
  2. Automatico M1918 Trench (Primary)
  3. MP 18 Experimental (Primary)
  4. 12g Automatic Hunter (Primary)
  5. MP 18 Trench (Primary)
  6. 12g Automatic Backbored (Primary)
  7. MP 18 Optical (Primary)
  8. Automatico M1918 Storm (Primary)
  9. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Primary)
  10. 12g Automatic Extended (Primary)
  11. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Primary)
  12. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Primary)
  13. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Primary)
  14. 1903 Hammerless (Secondary)
  15. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  16. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Primary)
  17. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  18. Model 10-A Slug (Primary)
  19. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Primary)
  20. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  21. M1911 (Secondary)
  22. Howdah Pistol (Secondary)
  23. Gasser M1870 (Secondary)
  24. Model 10-A Factory (Primary)
  25. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  26. Model 10-A Hunter (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. Automatico M1918 Factory
  2. Automatico M1918 Trench
  3. MP 18 Experimental
  4. 12g Automatic Hunter
  5. MP 18 Trench
  6. 12g Automatic Backbored
  7. MP 18 Optical
  8. Automatico M1918 Storm
  9. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory
  10. 12g Automatic Extended
  11. Sjögren Inertial Factory
  12. Hellriegel 1915 Factory
  13. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive
  14. M97 Trench Gun Backbored
  15. Model 10-A Slug
  16. M97 Trench Gun Hunter
  17. Model 10-A Factory
  18. Model 10-A Hunter


Secondaries Only


  1. 1903 Hammerless
  2. Mle M1903
  3. Borchard C93
  4. P08 Pistol
  5. M1911
  6. Howdah Pistol
  7. Gasser M1870
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Medic Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Primary)
  2. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Primary)
  3. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Primary)
  4. M1907 SL Trench (Primary)
  5. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Primary)
  6. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Primary)
  7. M1907 SL Factory (Primary)
  8. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Primary)
  9. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Primary)
  10. M1907 SL Sweeper (Primary)
  11. Mondragon Optical (Primary)
  12. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Primary)
  13. Taschenpistole M1914 (Secondary)
  14. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Primary)
  15. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Primary)
  16. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Primary)
  17. Mondragon Storm (Primary)
  18. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  19. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  20. Mondragon Sniper (Primary)
  21. RSC 1917 Optical (Primary)
  22. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  23. RSC 1917 Factory (Primary)
  24. Mauser C96 (Secondary)
  25. M1911 (Secondary)
  26. Auto revolver (Secondary)
  27. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)


Primaries Only


  1. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory
  2. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman
  3. Selbstlader 1906 Factory
  4. M1907 SL Trench
  5. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper
  6. Cei-Rigotti Trench
  7. M1907 SL Factory
  8. Selbstlader M1916 Optical
  9. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended
  10. M1907 SL Sweeper
  11. Mondragon Optical
  12. Cei-Rigotti Optical
  13. Selbstlader M1916 Factory
  14. Cei-Rigotti Factory
  15. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman
  16. Mondragon Storm
  17. Mondragon Sniper
  18. RSC 1917 Optical
  19. RSC 1917 Factory


Secondaries Only


  1. Taschenpistole M1914
  2. Mle M1903
  3. Borchard C93
  4. P08 Pistol
  5. Mauser C96
  6. M1911
  7. Auto revolver
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Scout Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Frommer Stop (Secondary)
  2. M1903 Experimental (Primary)
  3. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  4. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Primary)
  5. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  6. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Primary)
  7. Mars Automatic Pistol (Secondary)
  8. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  9. Russian 1895 Trench (Primary)
  10. M1911 (Secondary)
  11. Bodeo 1889 (Secondary)
  12. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Primary)
  13. Russian 1895 Infantry (Primary)
  14. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Primary)
  15. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Primary)
  16. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Primary)
  17. Russian 1895 Sniper (Primary)
  18. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Primary)
  19. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Primary)
  20. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Primary)
  21. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Primary)
  22. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Primary)
  23. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  24. Martini-Henry Infantry (Primary)
  25. Martini-Henry Sniper (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. M1903 Experimental
  2. Gewehr M.95 Carbine
  3. SMLE MKIII Carbine
  4. Russian 1895 Trench
  5. Gewehr 98 Infantry
  6. Russian 1895 Infantry
  7. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper
  8. SMLE MKIII Infantry
  9. Gewehr M.95 Infantry
  10. Russian 1895 Sniper
  11. SMLE MKIII Marksman
  12. M1903 Sniper / Marksman
  13. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry
  14. Gewehr M.95 Marksman
  15. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper
  16. Martini-Henry Infantry
  17. Martini-Henry Sniper


Secondaries Only


  1. Frommer Stop
  2. Mle M1903
  3. Borchard C93
  4. Mars Automatic Pistol
  5. P08 Pistol
  6. M1911
  7. Bodeo 1889
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Support Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. BAR 1918 Trench (Primary)
  2. BAR 1918 Storm (Primary)
  3. Madsen MG Trench (Primary)
  4. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Primary)
  5. Madsen MG Low Weight (Primary)
  6. Madsen MG Storm (Primary)
  7. Chauchat Low Weight (Primary)
  8. Chauchat Telescopic (Primary)
  9. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Primary)
  10. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Primary)
  11. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Primary)
  12. Huot Automatic Optical (Primary)
  13. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Primary)
  14. Lewis Gun Optical (Primary)
  15. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Primary)
  16. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Primary)
  17. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Primary)
  18. MG15 N.A. Storm (Primary)
  19. Beretta M1915 (Secondary)
  20. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Primary)
  21. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  22. Steyr M1912 (Secondary)
  23. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  24. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  25. M1911 (Secondary)
  26. Bulldog (Secondary)
  27. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)


Primaries Only


  1. BAR 1918 Trench
  2. BAR 1918 Storm
  3. Madsen MG Trench
  4. BAR 1918 Telescopic
  5. Madsen MG Low Weight
  6. Madsen MG Storm
  7. Chauchat Low Weight
  8. Chauchat Telescopic
  9. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical
  10. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm
  11. Huot Automatic Low Weight
  12. Huot Automatic Optical
  13. Lewis Gun Low Weight
  14. Lewis Gun Optical
  15. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic
  16. Lewis Gun Suppressive
  17. MG15 N.A. Low Weight
  18. MG15 N.A. Storm
  19. MG15 N.A. Suppressive


Secondaries Only


  1. Beretta M1915
  2. Mle M1903
  3. Steyr M1912
  4. Borchard C93
  5. P08 Pistol
  6. M1911
  7. Bulldog
  8. No. 3 Revolver



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Wednesday, May 17th 2017, 8:25pm

Hipfire Not Moving stances only: Primary - Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault), Secondary - Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic)
Assault Class: Primary - Automatico M1918 Trench, Secondary - Mle M1903
Medic Class: Primary - M1907 SL Trench, Secondary - Taschenpistole M1914
Scout Class: Primary - M1903 Experimental, Secondary - Frommer Stop
Support Class: Primary - BAR 1918 Trench, Secondary - Mle M1903

Hipfire Not Moving Stances


All Classes


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault) (Primary)
  2. Automatico M1918 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  3. BAR 1918 Trench (Support) (Primary)
  4. 12g Automatic Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  5. 12g Automatic Backbored (Assault) (Primary)
  6. 12g Automatic Extended (Assault) (Primary)
  7. Madsen MG Trench (Support) (Primary)
  8. Automatico M1918 Storm (Assault) (Primary)
  9. MP 18 Trench (Assault) (Primary)
  10. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  11. BAR 1918 Storm (Support) (Primary)
  12. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  13. MP 18 Experimental (Assault) (Primary)
  14. M1907 SL Trench (Medic) (Primary)
  15. Madsen MG Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  16. Chauchat Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  17. MP 18 Optical (Assault) (Primary)
  18. Madsen MG Storm (Support) (Primary)
  19. Chauchat Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  20. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Assault) (Primary)
  21. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  22. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  23. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Medic) (Primary)
  24. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  25. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  26. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Support) (Primary)
  27. Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic) (Secondary)
  28. Frommer Stop (Scout) (Secondary)
  29. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  30. Huot Automatic Optical (Support) (Primary)
  31. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  32. Mle M1903 (All) (Secondary)
  33. 1903 Hammerless (Assault) (Secondary)
  34. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Medic) (Primary)
  35. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Assault) (Primary)
  36. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Support) (Primary)
  37. M1907 SL Sweeper (Medic) (Primary)
  38. Beretta M1915 (Support) (Secondary)
  39. Borchard C93 (All) (Secondary)
  40. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  41. Lewis Gun Optical (Support) (Primary)
  42. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Support) (Primary)
  43. Steyr M1912 (Support) (Secondary)
  44. Bulldog (Support) (Secondary)
  45. P08 Pistol (All) (Secondary)
  46. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Medic) (Primary)
  47. Bodeo 1889 (Scout) (Secondary)
  48. M1907 SL Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  49. Howdah Pistol (Assault) (Secondary)
  50. M1903 Experimental (Scout) (Primary)
  51. M1911 (All) (Secondary)
  52. Mars Automatic Pistol (Scout) (Secondary)
  53. Model 10-A Slug (Assault) (Primary)
  54. Mauser C96 (Medic) (Secondary)
  55. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  56. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Medic) (Primary)
  57. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  58. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  59. Auto revolver (Medic) (Secondary)
  60. Gasser M1870 (Assault) (Secondary)
  61. Model 10-A Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  62. MG15 N.A. Storm (Support) (Primary)
  63. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  64. Mondragon Storm (Medic) (Primary)
  65. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Support) (Primary)
  66. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  67. No. 3 Revolver (All) (Secondary)
  68. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Medic) (Primary)
  69. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  70. Model 10-A Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  71. Mondragon Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  72. Mondragon Sniper (Medic) (Primary)
  73. RSC 1917 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  74. Russian 1895 Trench (Scout) (Primary)
  75. RSC 1917 Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  76. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Scout) (Primary)
  77. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Scout) (Primary)
  78. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  79. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  80. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  81. Russian 1895 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  82. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  83. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  84. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  85. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  86. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  87. Russian 1895 Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  88. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  89. Martini-Henry Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  90. Martini-Henry Sniper (Scout) (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault)
  2. Automatico M1918 Factory (Assault)
  3. BAR 1918 Trench (Support)
  4. 12g Automatic Hunter (Assault)
  5. 12g Automatic Backbored (Assault)
  6. 12g Automatic Extended (Assault)
  7. Madsen MG Trench (Support)
  8. Automatico M1918 Storm (Assault)
  9. MP 18 Trench (Assault)
  10. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Assault)
  11. BAR 1918 Storm (Support)
  12. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Support)
  13. MP 18 Experimental (Assault)
  14. M1907 SL Trench (Medic)
  15. Madsen MG Low Weight (Support)
  16. Chauchat Low Weight (Support)
  17. MP 18 Optical (Assault)
  18. Madsen MG Storm (Support)
  19. Chauchat Telescopic (Support)
  20. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Assault)
  21. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Assault)
  22. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Assault)
  23. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Medic)
  24. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Medic)
  25. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Support)
  26. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Support)
  27. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Support)
  28. Huot Automatic Optical (Support)
  29. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Assault)
  30. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Medic)
  31. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Assault)
  32. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Support)
  33. M1907 SL Sweeper (Medic)
  34. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Support)
  35. Lewis Gun Optical (Support)
  36. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Support)
  37. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Medic)
  38. M1907 SL Factory (Medic)
  39. M1903 Experimental (Scout)
  40. Model 10-A Slug (Assault)
  41. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Medic)
  42. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Medic)
  43. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Medic)
  44. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Support)
  45. Model 10-A Factory (Assault)
  46. MG15 N.A. Storm (Support)
  47. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Medic)
  48. Mondragon Storm (Medic)
  49. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Support)
  50. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Medic)
  51. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Medic)
  52. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Medic)
  53. Model 10-A Hunter (Assault)
  54. Mondragon Optical (Medic)
  55. Mondragon Sniper (Medic)
  56. RSC 1917 Factory (Medic)
  57. Russian 1895 Trench (Scout)
  58. RSC 1917 Optical (Medic)
  59. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Scout)
  60. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Scout)
  61. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Scout)
  62. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Scout)
  63. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Scout)
  64. Russian 1895 Infantry (Scout)
  65. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Scout)
  66. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Scout)
  67. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Scout)
  68. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Scout)
  69. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Scout)
  70. Russian 1895 Sniper (Scout)
  71. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Scout)
  72. Martini-Henry Infantry (Scout)
  73. Martini-Henry Sniper (Scout)


Secondaries Only


  1. Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic)
  2. Frommer Stop (Scout)
  3. Mle M1903 (All)
  4. 1903 Hammerless (Assault)
  5. Beretta M1915 (Support)
  6. Borchard C93 (All)
  7. Steyr M1912 (Support)
  8. Bulldog (Support)
  9. P08 Pistol (All)
  10. Bodeo 1889 (Scout)
  11. Howdah Pistol (Assault)
  12. M1911 (All)
  13. Mars Automatic Pistol (Scout)
  14. Mauser C96 (Medic)
  15. Auto revolver (Medic)
  16. Gasser M1870 (Assault)
  17. No. 3 Revolver (All)



Assault Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Automatico M1918 Trench (Primary)
  2. Automatico M1918 Factory (Primary)
  3. 12g Automatic Hunter (Primary)
  4. 12g Automatic Backbored (Primary)
  5. 12g Automatic Extended (Primary)
  6. Automatico M1918 Storm (Primary)
  7. MP 18 Trench (Primary)
  8. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Primary)
  9. MP 18 Experimental (Primary)
  10. MP 18 Optical (Primary)
  11. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Primary)
  12. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Primary)
  13. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Primary)
  14. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Primary)
  15. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  16. 1903 Hammerless (Secondary)
  17. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Primary)
  18. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  19. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  20. Howdah Pistol (Secondary)
  21. M1911 (Secondary)
  22. Model 10-A Slug (Primary)
  23. Gasser M1870 (Secondary)
  24. Model 10-A Factory (Primary)
  25. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  26. Model 10-A Hunter (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. Automatico M1918 Trench
  2. Automatico M1918 Factory
  3. 12g Automatic Hunter
  4. 12g Automatic Backbored
  5. 12g Automatic Extended
  6. Automatico M1918 Storm
  7. MP 18 Trench
  8. Sjögren Inertial Factory
  9. MP 18 Experimental
  10. MP 18 Optical
  11. M97 Trench Gun Backbored
  12. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory
  13. M97 Trench Gun Hunter
  14. Hellriegel 1915 Factory
  15. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive
  16. Model 10-A Slug
  17. Model 10-A Factory
  18. Model 10-A Hunter


Secondaries Only


  1. Mle M1903
  2. 1903 Hammerless
  3. Borchard C93
  4. P08 Pistol
  5. Howdah Pistol
  6. M1911
  7. Gasser M1870
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Medic Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. M1907 SL Trench (Primary)
  2. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Primary)
  3. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Primary)
  4. Taschenpistole M1914 (Secondary)
  5. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  6. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Primary)
  7. M1907 SL Sweeper (Primary)
  8. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  9. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  10. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Primary)
  11. M1907 SL Factory (Primary)
  12. M1911 (Secondary)
  13. Mauser C96 (Secondary)
  14. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Primary)
  15. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Primary)
  16. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Primary)
  17. Auto revolver (Secondary)
  18. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Primary)
  19. Mondragon Storm (Primary)
  20. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Primary)
  21. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  22. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Primary)
  23. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Primary)
  24. Mondragon Optical (Primary)
  25. Mondragon Sniper (Primary)
  26. RSC 1917 Factory (Primary)
  27. RSC 1917 Optical (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. M1907 SL Trench
  2. Cei-Rigotti Trench
  3. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory
  4. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended
  5. M1907 SL Sweeper
  6. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman
  7. M1907 SL Factory
  8. Selbstlader 1906 Factory
  9. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper
  10. Cei-Rigotti Factory
  11. Selbstlader M1916 Factory
  12. Mondragon Storm
  13. Cei-Rigotti Optical
  14. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman
  15. Selbstlader M1916 Optical
  16. Mondragon Optical
  17. Mondragon Sniper
  18. RSC 1917 Factory
  19. RSC 1917 Optical


Secondaries Only


  1. Taschenpistole M1914
  2. Mle M1903
  3. Borchard C93
  4. P08 Pistol
  5. M1911
  6. Mauser C96
  7. Auto revolver
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Scout Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Frommer Stop (Secondary)
  2. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  3. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  4. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  5. Bodeo 1889 (Secondary)
  6. M1903 Experimental (Primary)
  7. M1911 (Secondary)
  8. Mars Automatic Pistol (Secondary)
  9. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  10. Russian 1895 Trench (Primary)
  11. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Primary)
  12. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Primary)
  13. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Primary)
  14. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Primary)
  15. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Primary)
  16. Russian 1895 Infantry (Primary)
  17. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Primary)
  18. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Primary)
  19. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Primary)
  20. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Primary)
  21. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Primary)
  22. Russian 1895 Sniper (Primary)
  23. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Primary)
  24. Martini-Henry Infantry (Primary)
  25. Martini-Henry Sniper (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. M1903 Experimental
  2. Russian 1895 Trench
  3. Gewehr M.95 Carbine
  4. SMLE MKIII Carbine
  5. Gewehr 98 Infantry
  6. SMLE MKIII Infantry
  7. Gewehr M.95 Infantry
  8. Russian 1895 Infantry
  9. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper
  10. SMLE MKIII Marksman
  11. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry
  12. M1903 Sniper / Marksman
  13. Gewehr M.95 Marksman
  14. Russian 1895 Sniper
  15. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper
  16. Martini-Henry Infantry
  17. Martini-Henry Sniper


Secondaries Only


  1. Frommer Stop
  2. Mle M1903
  3. Borchard C93
  4. P08 Pistol
  5. Bodeo 1889
  6. M1911
  7. Mars Automatic Pistol
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Support Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. BAR 1918 Trench (Primary)
  2. Madsen MG Trench (Primary)
  3. BAR 1918 Storm (Primary)
  4. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Primary)
  5. Madsen MG Low Weight (Primary)
  6. Chauchat Low Weight (Primary)
  7. Madsen MG Storm (Primary)
  8. Chauchat Telescopic (Primary)
  9. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Primary)
  10. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Primary)
  11. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Primary)
  12. Huot Automatic Optical (Primary)
  13. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  14. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Primary)
  15. Beretta M1915 (Secondary)
  16. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  17. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Primary)
  18. Lewis Gun Optical (Primary)
  19. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Primary)
  20. Steyr M1912 (Secondary)
  21. Bulldog (Secondary)
  22. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  23. M1911 (Secondary)
  24. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Primary)
  25. MG15 N.A. Storm (Primary)
  26. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Primary)
  27. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)


Primaries Only


  1. BAR 1918 Trench
  2. Madsen MG Trench
  3. BAR 1918 Storm
  4. BAR 1918 Telescopic
  5. Madsen MG Low Weight
  6. Chauchat Low Weight
  7. Madsen MG Storm
  8. Chauchat Telescopic
  9. Huot Automatic Low Weight
  10. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm
  11. Lewis Gun Low Weight
  12. Huot Automatic Optical
  13. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical
  14. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic
  15. Lewis Gun Optical
  16. Lewis Gun Suppressive
  17. MG15 N.A. Low Weight
  18. MG15 N.A. Storm
  19. MG15 N.A. Suppressive


Secondaries Only


  1. Mle M1903
  2. Beretta M1915
  3. Borchard C93
  4. Steyr M1912
  5. Bulldog
  6. P08 Pistol
  7. M1911
  8. No. 3 Revolver



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Wednesday, May 17th 2017, 8:26pm

Hipfire Moving stances only: Primary - Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault), Secondary - Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic)
Assault Class: Primary - Automatico M1918 Trench, Secondary - Mle M1903
Medic Class: Primary - M1907 SL Trench, Secondary - Taschenpistole M1914
Scout Class: Primary - M1903 Experimental, Secondary - Frommer Stop
Support Class: Primary - BAR 1918 Trench, Secondary - Mle M1903

Hipfire Moving Stances


All Classes


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault) (Primary)
  2. 12g Automatic Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  3. 12g Automatic Backbored (Assault) (Primary)
  4. 12g Automatic Extended (Assault) (Primary)
  5. Automatico M1918 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  6. BAR 1918 Trench (Support) (Primary)
  7. MP 18 Trench (Assault) (Primary)
  8. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  9. Madsen MG Trench (Support) (Primary)
  10. Automatico M1918 Storm (Assault) (Primary)
  11. MP 18 Experimental (Assault) (Primary)
  12. M1907 SL Trench (Medic) (Primary)
  13. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Assault) (Primary)
  14. MP 18 Optical (Assault) (Primary)
  15. Chauchat Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  16. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  17. Chauchat Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  18. BAR 1918 Storm (Support) (Primary)
  19. Madsen MG Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  20. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  21. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Medic) (Primary)
  22. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  23. Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic) (Secondary)
  24. Madsen MG Storm (Support) (Primary)
  25. Frommer Stop (Scout) (Secondary)
  26. Mle M1903 (All) (Secondary)
  27. 1903 Hammerless (Assault) (Secondary)
  28. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  29. Beretta M1915 (Support) (Secondary)
  30. Bulldog (Support) (Secondary)
  31. Borchard C93 (All) (Secondary)
  32. Steyr M1912 (Support) (Secondary)
  33. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Medic) (Primary)
  34. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  35. Model 10-A Slug (Assault) (Primary)
  36. Bodeo 1889 (Scout) (Secondary)
  37. P08 Pistol (All) (Secondary)
  38. M1907 SL Sweeper (Medic) (Primary)
  39. Howdah Pistol (Assault) (Secondary)
  40. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Support) (Primary)
  41. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  42. M1911 (All) (Secondary)
  43. M1907 SL Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  44. Mars Automatic Pistol (Scout) (Secondary)
  45. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Medic) (Primary)
  46. Huot Automatic Optical (Support) (Primary)
  47. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Support) (Primary)
  48. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  49. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Support) (Primary)
  50. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  51. Mauser C96 (Medic) (Secondary)
  52. Lewis Gun Optical (Support) (Primary)
  53. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Assault) (Primary)
  54. M1903 Experimental (Scout) (Primary)
  55. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  56. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Medic) (Primary)
  57. Auto revolver (Medic) (Secondary)
  58. Model 10-A Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  59. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  60. Gasser M1870 (Assault) (Secondary)
  61. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  62. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  63. No. 3 Revolver (All) (Secondary)
  64. Model 10-A Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  65. Mondragon Storm (Medic) (Primary)
  66. MG15 N.A. Storm (Support) (Primary)
  67. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  68. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Medic) (Primary)
  69. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  70. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Support) (Primary)
  71. Mondragon Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  72. Mondragon Sniper (Medic) (Primary)
  73. RSC 1917 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  74. RSC 1917 Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  75. Russian 1895 Trench (Scout) (Primary)
  76. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Scout) (Primary)
  77. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Scout) (Primary)
  78. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  79. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  80. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  81. Russian 1895 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  82. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  83. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  84. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  85. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  86. Russian 1895 Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  87. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  88. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  89. Martini-Henry Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  90. Martini-Henry Sniper (Scout) (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. Automatico M1918 Trench
  2. 12g Automatic Hunter
  3. 12g Automatic Backbored
  4. 12g Automatic Extended
  5. Automatico M1918 Factory
  6. BAR 1918 Trench
  7. MP 18 Trench
  8. Sjögren Inertial Factory
  9. Madsen MG Trench
  10. Automatico M1918 Storm
  11. MP 18 Experimental
  12. M1907 SL Trench
  13. M97 Trench Gun Backbored
  14. MP 18 Optical
  15. Chauchat Low Weight
  16. M97 Trench Gun Hunter
  17. Chauchat Telescopic
  18. BAR 1918 Storm
  19. Madsen MG Low Weight
  20. BAR 1918 Telescopic
  21. Cei-Rigotti Trench
  22. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory
  23. Madsen MG Storm
  24. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory
  25. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended
  26. Huot Automatic Low Weight
  27. Model 10-A Slug
  28. M1907 SL Sweeper
  29. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm
  30. Lewis Gun Low Weight
  31. M1907 SL Factory
  32. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman
  33. Huot Automatic Optical
  34. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical
  35. Hellriegel 1915 Factory
  36. Lewis Gun Suppressive
  37. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic
  38. Lewis Gun Optical
  39. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive
  40. M1903 Experimental
  41. Selbstlader 1906 Factory
  42. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper
  43. Model 10-A Factory
  44. Cei-Rigotti Factory
  45. Selbstlader M1916 Factory
  46. MG15 N.A. Low Weight
  47. Model 10-A Hunter
  48. Mondragon Storm
  49. MG15 N.A. Storm
  50. Cei-Rigotti Optical
  51. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman
  52. Selbstlader M1916 Optical
  53. MG15 N.A. Suppressive
  54. Mondragon Optical
  55. Mondragon Sniper
  56. RSC 1917 Factory
  57. RSC 1917 Optical
  58. Russian 1895 Trench
  59. SMLE MKIII Carbine
  60. Gewehr M.95 Carbine
  61. Gewehr 98 Infantry
  62. SMLE MKIII Infantry
  63. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper
  64. Russian 1895 Infantry
  65. SMLE MKIII Marksman
  66. M1903 Sniper / Marksman
  67. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry
  68. Gewehr M.95 Infantry
  69. Russian 1895 Sniper
  70. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper
  71. Gewehr M.95 Marksman
  72. Martini-Henry Infantry
  73. Martini-Henry Sniper


Secondaries Only


  1. Taschenpistole M1914
  2. Frommer Stop
  3. Mle M1903
  4. 1903 Hammerless
  5. Beretta M1915
  6. Bulldog
  7. Borchard C93
  8. Steyr M1912
  9. Bodeo 1889
  10. P08 Pistol
  11. Howdah Pistol
  12. M1911
  13. Mars Automatic Pistol
  14. Mauser C96
  15. Auto revolver
  16. Gasser M1870
  17. No. 3 Revolver



Assault Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Automatico M1918 Trench (Primary)
  2. 12g Automatic Hunter (Primary)
  3. 12g Automatic Backbored (Primary)
  4. 12g Automatic Extended (Primary)
  5. Automatico M1918 Factory (Primary)
  6. MP 18 Trench (Primary)
  7. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Primary)
  8. Automatico M1918 Storm (Primary)
  9. MP 18 Experimental (Primary)
  10. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Primary)
  11. MP 18 Optical (Primary)
  12. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Primary)
  13. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  14. 1903 Hammerless (Secondary)
  15. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Primary)
  16. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  17. Model 10-A Slug (Primary)
  18. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  19. Howdah Pistol (Secondary)
  20. M1911 (Secondary)
  21. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Primary)
  22. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Primary)
  23. Model 10-A Factory (Primary)
  24. Gasser M1870 (Secondary)
  25. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  26. Model 10-A Hunter (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. Automatico M1918 Trench
  2. 12g Automatic Hunter
  3. 12g Automatic Backbored
  4. 12g Automatic Extended
  5. Automatico M1918 Factory
  6. MP 18 Trench
  7. Sjögren Inertial Factory
  8. Automatico M1918 Storm
  9. MP 18 Experimental
  10. M97 Trench Gun Backbored
  11. MP 18 Optical
  12. M97 Trench Gun Hunter
  13. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory
  14. Model 10-A Slug
  15. Hellriegel 1915 Factory
  16. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive
  17. Model 10-A Factory
  18. Model 10-A Hunter


Secondaries Only


  1. Mle M1903
  2. 1903 Hammerless
  3. Borchard C93
  4. P08 Pistol
  5. Howdah Pistol
  6. M1911
  7. Gasser M1870
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Medic Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. M1907 SL Trench (Primary)
  2. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Primary)
  3. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Primary)
  4. Taschenpistole M1914 (Secondary)
  5. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  6. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  7. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Primary)
  8. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  9. M1907 SL Sweeper (Primary)
  10. M1911 (Secondary)
  11. M1907 SL Factory (Primary)
  12. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Primary)
  13. Mauser C96 (Secondary)
  14. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Primary)
  15. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Primary)
  16. Auto revolver (Secondary)
  17. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Primary)
  18. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Primary)
  19. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  20. Mondragon Storm (Primary)
  21. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Primary)
  22. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Primary)
  23. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Primary)
  24. Mondragon Optical (Primary)
  25. Mondragon Sniper (Primary)
  26. RSC 1917 Factory (Primary)
  27. RSC 1917 Optical (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. M1907 SL Trench
  2. Cei-Rigotti Trench
  3. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory
  4. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended
  5. M1907 SL Sweeper
  6. M1907 SL Factory
  7. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman
  8. Selbstlader 1906 Factory
  9. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper
  10. Cei-Rigotti Factory
  11. Selbstlader M1916 Factory
  12. Mondragon Storm
  13. Cei-Rigotti Optical
  14. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman
  15. Selbstlader M1916 Optical
  16. Mondragon Optical
  17. Mondragon Sniper
  18. RSC 1917 Factory
  19. RSC 1917 Optical


Secondaries Only


  1. Taschenpistole M1914
  2. Mle M1903
  3. Borchard C93
  4. P08 Pistol
  5. M1911
  6. Mauser C96
  7. Auto revolver
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Scout Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Frommer Stop (Secondary)
  2. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  3. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  4. Bodeo 1889 (Secondary)
  5. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  6. M1911 (Secondary)
  7. Mars Automatic Pistol (Secondary)
  8. M1903 Experimental (Primary)
  9. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  10. Russian 1895 Trench (Primary)
  11. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Primary)
  12. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Primary)
  13. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Primary)
  14. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Primary)
  15. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Primary)
  16. Russian 1895 Infantry (Primary)
  17. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Primary)
  18. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Primary)
  19. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Primary)
  20. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Primary)
  21. Russian 1895 Sniper (Primary)
  22. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Primary)
  23. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Primary)
  24. Martini-Henry Infantry (Primary)
  25. Martini-Henry Sniper (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. M1903 Experimental
  2. Russian 1895 Trench
  3. SMLE MKIII Carbine
  4. Gewehr M.95 Carbine
  5. Gewehr 98 Infantry
  6. SMLE MKIII Infantry
  7. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper
  8. Russian 1895 Infantry
  9. SMLE MKIII Marksman
  10. M1903 Sniper / Marksman
  11. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry
  12. Gewehr M.95 Infantry
  13. Russian 1895 Sniper
  14. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper
  15. Gewehr M.95 Marksman
  16. Martini-Henry Infantry
  17. Martini-Henry Sniper


Secondaries Only


  1. Frommer Stop
  2. Mle M1903
  3. Borchard C93
  4. Bodeo 1889
  5. P08 Pistol
  6. M1911
  7. Mars Automatic Pistol
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Support Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. BAR 1918 Trench (Primary)
  2. Madsen MG Trench (Primary)
  3. Chauchat Low Weight (Primary)
  4. Chauchat Telescopic (Primary)
  5. BAR 1918 Storm (Primary)
  6. Madsen MG Low Weight (Primary)
  7. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Primary)
  8. Madsen MG Storm (Primary)
  9. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  10. Beretta M1915 (Secondary)
  11. Bulldog (Secondary)
  12. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  13. Steyr M1912 (Secondary)
  14. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Primary)
  15. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  16. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Primary)
  17. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Primary)
  18. M1911 (Secondary)
  19. Huot Automatic Optical (Primary)
  20. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Primary)
  21. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Primary)
  22. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Primary)
  23. Lewis Gun Optical (Primary)
  24. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Primary)
  25. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  26. MG15 N.A. Storm (Primary)
  27. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. BAR 1918 Trench
  2. Madsen MG Trench
  3. Chauchat Low Weight
  4. Chauchat Telescopic
  5. BAR 1918 Storm
  6. Madsen MG Low Weight
  7. BAR 1918 Telescopic
  8. Madsen MG Storm
  9. Huot Automatic Low Weight
  10. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm
  11. Lewis Gun Low Weight
  12. Huot Automatic Optical
  13. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical
  14. Lewis Gun Suppressive
  15. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic
  16. Lewis Gun Optical
  17. MG15 N.A. Low Weight
  18. MG15 N.A. Storm
  19. MG15 N.A. Suppressive


Secondaries Only


  1. Mle M1903
  2. Beretta M1915
  3. Bulldog
  4. Borchard C93
  5. Steyr M1912
  6. P08 Pistol
  7. M1911
  8. No. 3 Revolver



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Wednesday, May 17th 2017, 8:26pm

ADS Moving stances only: Primary - BAR 1918 Storm (Support), Secondary - Frommer Stop (Scout)
Assault Class: Primary - Automatico M1918 Factory, Secondary - 1903 Hammerless
Medic Class: Primary - Selbstlader 1906 Factory, Secondary - Taschenpistole M1914
Scout Class: Primary - Gewehr M.95 Carbine, Secondary - Frommer Stop
Support Class: Primary - BAR 1918 Storm, Secondary - Beretta M1915

ADS Moving Stances


All Classes


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. BAR 1918 Storm (Support) (Primary)
  2. BAR 1918 Trench (Support) (Primary)
  3. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  4. Madsen MG Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  5. Madsen MG Storm (Support) (Primary)
  6. Madsen MG Trench (Support) (Primary)
  7. Chauchat Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  8. Chauchat Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  9. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Support) (Primary)
  10. Automatico M1918 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  11. MP 18 Optical (Assault) (Primary)
  12. Huot Automatic Optical (Support) (Primary)
  13. MP 18 Experimental (Assault) (Primary)
  14. Lewis Gun Optical (Support) (Primary)
  15. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  16. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Medic) (Primary)
  17. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  18. Automatico M1918 Storm (Assault) (Primary)
  19. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Support) (Primary)
  20. Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault) (Primary)
  21. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Scout) (Primary)
  22. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  23. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Scout) (Primary)
  24. MP 18 Trench (Assault) (Primary)
  25. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  26. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  27. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  28. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  29. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Support) (Primary)
  30. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Assault) (Primary)
  31. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  32. Mondragon Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  33. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  34. Frommer Stop (Scout) (Secondary)
  35. Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic) (Secondary)
  36. 1903 Hammerless (Assault) (Secondary)
  37. Beretta M1915 (Support) (Secondary)
  38. 12g Automatic Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  39. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Medic) (Primary)
  40. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  41. 12g Automatic Backbored (Assault) (Primary)
  42. M1907 SL Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  43. RSC 1917 Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  44. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  45. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Medic) (Primary)
  46. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  47. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Medic) (Primary)
  48. M1903 Experimental (Scout) (Primary)
  49. M1907 SL Sweeper (Medic) (Primary)
  50. MG15 N.A. Storm (Support) (Primary)
  51. Model 10-A Slug (Assault) (Primary)
  52. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Medic) (Primary)
  53. Mle M1903 (All) (Secondary)
  54. M1907 SL Trench (Medic) (Primary)
  55. Mondragon Storm (Medic) (Primary)
  56. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Support) (Primary)
  57. Mars Automatic Pistol (Scout) (Secondary)
  58. P08 Pistol (All) (Secondary)
  59. Steyr M1912 (Support) (Secondary)
  60. Borchard C93 (All) (Secondary)
  61. Mondragon Sniper (Medic) (Primary)
  62. 12g Automatic Extended (Assault) (Primary)
  63. RSC 1917 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  64. M1911 (All) (Secondary)
  65. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  66. Russian 1895 Trench (Scout) (Primary)
  67. Mauser C96 (Medic) (Secondary)
  68. Russian 1895 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  69. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  70. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  71. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  72. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  73. Russian 1895 Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  74. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  75. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  76. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  77. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  78. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  79. Bulldog (Support) (Secondary)
  80. Bodeo 1889 (Scout) (Secondary)
  81. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Assault) (Primary)
  82. Gasser M1870 (Assault) (Secondary)
  83. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  84. Howdah Pistol (Assault) (Secondary)
  85. Auto revolver (Medic) (Secondary)
  86. No. 3 Revolver (All) (Secondary)
  87. Model 10-A Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  88. Model 10-A Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  89. Martini-Henry Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  90. Martini-Henry Sniper (Scout) (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. BAR 1918 Storm (Support)
  2. BAR 1918 Trench (Support)
  3. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Support)
  4. Madsen MG Low Weight (Support)
  5. Madsen MG Storm (Support)
  6. Madsen MG Trench (Support)
  7. Chauchat Low Weight (Support)
  8. Chauchat Telescopic (Support)
  9. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Support)
  10. Automatico M1918 Factory (Assault)
  11. MP 18 Optical (Assault)
  12. Huot Automatic Optical (Support)
  13. MP 18 Experimental (Assault)
  14. Lewis Gun Optical (Support)
  15. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Medic)
  16. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Medic)
  17. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Medic)
  18. Automatico M1918 Storm (Assault)
  19. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Support)
  20. Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault)
  21. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Scout)
  22. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Support)
  23. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Scout)
  24. MP 18 Trench (Assault)
  25. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Support)
  26. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Assault)
  27. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Support)
  28. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Medic)
  29. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Support)
  30. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Assault)
  31. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Medic)
  32. Mondragon Optical (Medic)
  33. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Assault)
  34. 12g Automatic Hunter (Assault)
  35. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Medic)
  36. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Medic)
  37. 12g Automatic Backbored (Assault)
  38. M1907 SL Factory (Medic)
  39. RSC 1917 Optical (Medic)
  40. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Support)
  41. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Medic)
  42. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Medic)
  43. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Medic)
  44. M1903 Experimental (Scout)
  45. M1907 SL Sweeper (Medic)
  46. MG15 N.A. Storm (Support)
  47. Model 10-A Slug (Assault)
  48. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Medic)
  49. M1907 SL Trench (Medic)
  50. Mondragon Storm (Medic)
  51. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Support)
  52. Mondragon Sniper (Medic)
  53. 12g Automatic Extended (Assault)
  54. RSC 1917 Factory (Medic)
  55. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Scout)
  56. Russian 1895 Trench (Scout)
  57. Russian 1895 Infantry (Scout)
  58. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Scout)
  59. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Assault)
  60. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Scout)
  61. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Scout)
  62. Russian 1895 Sniper (Scout)
  63. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Scout)
  64. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Scout)
  65. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Scout)
  66. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Scout)
  67. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Scout)
  68. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Assault)
  69. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Assault)
  70. Model 10-A Factory (Assault)
  71. Model 10-A Hunter (Assault)
  72. Martini-Henry Infantry (Scout)
  73. Martini-Henry Sniper (Scout)


Secondaries Only


  1. Frommer Stop (Scout)
  2. Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic)
  3. 1903 Hammerless (Assault)
  4. Beretta M1915 (Support)
  5. Mle M1903 (All)
  6. Mars Automatic Pistol (Scout)
  7. P08 Pistol (All)
  8. Steyr M1912 (Support)
  9. Borchard C93 (All)
  10. M1911 (All)
  11. Mauser C96 (Medic)
  12. Bulldog (Support)
  13. Bodeo 1889 (Scout)
  14. Gasser M1870 (Assault)
  15. Howdah Pistol (Assault)
  16. Auto revolver (Medic)
  17. No. 3 Revolver (All)



Assault Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Automatico M1918 Factory (Primary)
  2. MP 18 Optical (Primary)
  3. MP 18 Experimental (Primary)
  4. Automatico M1918 Storm (Primary)
  5. Automatico M1918 Trench (Primary)
  6. MP 18 Trench (Primary)
  7. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Primary)
  8. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Primary)
  9. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Primary)
  10. 1903 Hammerless (Secondary)
  11. 12g Automatic Hunter (Primary)
  12. 12g Automatic Backbored (Primary)
  13. Model 10-A Slug (Primary)
  14. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  15. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  16. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  17. 12g Automatic Extended (Primary)
  18. M1911 (Secondary)
  19. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Primary)
  20. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Primary)
  21. Gasser M1870 (Secondary)
  22. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Primary)
  23. Howdah Pistol (Secondary)
  24. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  25. Model 10-A Factory (Primary)
  26. Model 10-A Hunter (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. Automatico M1918 Factory
  2. MP 18 Optical
  3. MP 18 Experimental
  4. Automatico M1918 Storm
  5. Automatico M1918 Trench
  6. MP 18 Trench
  7. Hellriegel 1915 Factory
  8. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive
  9. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory
  10. 12g Automatic Hunter
  11. 12g Automatic Backbored
  12. Model 10-A Slug
  13. 12g Automatic Extended
  14. Sjögren Inertial Factory
  15. M97 Trench Gun Backbored
  16. M97 Trench Gun Hunter
  17. Model 10-A Factory
  18. Model 10-A Hunter


Secondaries Only


  1. 1903 Hammerless
  2. Mle M1903
  3. P08 Pistol
  4. Borchard C93
  5. M1911
  6. Gasser M1870
  7. Howdah Pistol
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Medic Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Primary)
  2. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Primary)
  3. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Primary)
  4. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Primary)
  5. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Primary)
  6. Mondragon Optical (Primary)
  7. Taschenpistole M1914 (Secondary)
  8. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Primary)
  9. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Primary)
  10. M1907 SL Factory (Primary)
  11. RSC 1917 Optical (Primary)
  12. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Primary)
  13. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Primary)
  14. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Primary)
  15. M1907 SL Sweeper (Primary)
  16. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Primary)
  17. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  18. M1907 SL Trench (Primary)
  19. Mondragon Storm (Primary)
  20. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  21. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  22. Mondragon Sniper (Primary)
  23. RSC 1917 Factory (Primary)
  24. M1911 (Secondary)
  25. Mauser C96 (Secondary)
  26. Auto revolver (Secondary)
  27. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)


Primaries Only


  1. Selbstlader 1906 Factory
  2. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman
  3. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory
  4. Cei-Rigotti Optical
  5. Selbstlader M1916 Optical
  6. Mondragon Optical
  7. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper
  8. Cei-Rigotti Factory
  9. M1907 SL Factory
  10. RSC 1917 Optical
  11. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman
  12. Selbstlader M1916 Factory
  13. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended
  14. M1907 SL Sweeper
  15. Cei-Rigotti Trench
  16. M1907 SL Trench
  17. Mondragon Storm
  18. Mondragon Sniper
  19. RSC 1917 Factory


Secondaries Only


  1. Taschenpistole M1914
  2. Mle M1903
  3. P08 Pistol
  4. Borchard C93
  5. M1911
  6. Mauser C96
  7. Auto revolver
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Scout Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Primary)
  2. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Primary)
  3. Frommer Stop (Secondary)
  4. M1903 Experimental (Primary)
  5. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  6. Mars Automatic Pistol (Secondary)
  7. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  8. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  9. M1911 (Secondary)
  10. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Primary)
  11. Russian 1895 Trench (Primary)
  12. Russian 1895 Infantry (Primary)
  13. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Primary)
  14. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Primary)
  15. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Primary)
  16. Russian 1895 Sniper (Primary)
  17. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Primary)
  18. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Primary)
  19. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Primary)
  20. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Primary)
  21. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Primary)
  22. Bodeo 1889 (Secondary)
  23. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  24. Martini-Henry Infantry (Primary)
  25. Martini-Henry Sniper (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. Gewehr M.95 Carbine
  2. SMLE MKIII Carbine
  3. M1903 Experimental
  4. SMLE MKIII Infantry
  5. Russian 1895 Trench
  6. Russian 1895 Infantry
  7. Gewehr M.95 Infantry
  8. SMLE MKIII Marksman
  9. Gewehr 98 Infantry
  10. Russian 1895 Sniper
  11. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry
  12. Gewehr M.95 Marksman
  13. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper
  14. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper
  15. M1903 Sniper / Marksman
  16. Martini-Henry Infantry
  17. Martini-Henry Sniper


Secondaries Only


  1. Frommer Stop
  2. Mle M1903
  3. Mars Automatic Pistol
  4. P08 Pistol
  5. Borchard C93
  6. M1911
  7. Bodeo 1889
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Support Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. BAR 1918 Storm (Primary)
  2. BAR 1918 Trench (Primary)
  3. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Primary)
  4. Madsen MG Low Weight (Primary)
  5. Madsen MG Storm (Primary)
  6. Madsen MG Trench (Primary)
  7. Chauchat Low Weight (Primary)
  8. Chauchat Telescopic (Primary)
  9. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Primary)
  10. Huot Automatic Optical (Primary)
  11. Lewis Gun Optical (Primary)
  12. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Primary)
  13. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Primary)
  14. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Primary)
  15. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Primary)
  16. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Primary)
  17. Beretta M1915 (Secondary)
  18. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Primary)
  19. MG15 N.A. Storm (Primary)
  20. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  21. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Primary)
  22. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  23. Steyr M1912 (Secondary)
  24. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  25. M1911 (Secondary)
  26. Bulldog (Secondary)
  27. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)


Primaries Only


  1. BAR 1918 Storm
  2. BAR 1918 Trench
  3. BAR 1918 Telescopic
  4. Madsen MG Low Weight
  5. Madsen MG Storm
  6. Madsen MG Trench
  7. Chauchat Low Weight
  8. Chauchat Telescopic
  9. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical
  10. Huot Automatic Optical
  11. Lewis Gun Optical
  12. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm
  13. Huot Automatic Low Weight
  14. Lewis Gun Low Weight
  15. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic
  16. Lewis Gun Suppressive
  17. MG15 N.A. Low Weight
  18. MG15 N.A. Storm
  19. MG15 N.A. Suppressive


Secondaries Only


  1. Beretta M1915
  2. Mle M1903
  3. P08 Pistol
  4. Steyr M1912
  5. Borchard C93
  6. M1911
  7. Bulldog
  8. No. 3 Revolver



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Wednesday, May 17th 2017, 8:26pm

ADS Not Moving stances only: Primary - BAR 1918 Telescopic (Support), Secondary - Mars Automatic Pistol (Scout)
Assault Class: Primary - MP 18 Experimental, Secondary - Borchard C93
Medic Class: Primary - Selbstlader 1906 Factory, Secondary - Borchard C93
Scout Class: Primary - Gewehr 98 Infantry, Secondary - Mars Automatic Pistol
Support Class: Primary - BAR 1918 Telescopic, Secondary - Steyr M1912

ADS Not Moving Stances


All Classes


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  2. BAR 1918 Storm (Support) (Primary)
  3. BAR 1918 Trench (Support) (Primary)
  4. Madsen MG Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  5. Madsen MG Storm (Support) (Primary)
  6. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  7. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Support) (Primary)
  8. Madsen MG Trench (Support) (Primary)
  9. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  10. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Medic) (Primary)
  11. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Support) (Primary)
  12. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  13. Chauchat Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  14. Huot Automatic Optical (Support) (Primary)
  15. Chauchat Telescopic (Support) (Primary)
  16. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  17. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Medic) (Primary)
  18. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Support) (Primary)
  19. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  20. Lewis Gun Optical (Support) (Primary)
  21. Mondragon Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  22. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Medic) (Primary)
  23. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Support) (Primary)
  24. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  25. MG15 N.A. Storm (Support) (Primary)
  26. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Support) (Primary)
  27. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  28. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  29. Russian 1895 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  30. Russian 1895 Trench (Scout) (Primary)
  31. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  32. Russian 1895 Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  33. Mondragon Sniper (Medic) (Primary)
  34. Mondragon Storm (Medic) (Primary)
  35. MP 18 Experimental (Assault) (Primary)
  36. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  37. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  38. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  39. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Scout) (Primary)
  40. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  41. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  42. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  43. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  44. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Scout) (Primary)
  45. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Scout) (Primary)
  46. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  47. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  48. RSC 1917 Optical (Medic) (Primary)
  49. M1907 SL Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  50. MP 18 Optical (Assault) (Primary)
  51. Automatico M1918 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  52. RSC 1917 Factory (Medic) (Primary)
  53. M1903 Experimental (Scout) (Primary)
  54. M1907 SL Sweeper (Medic) (Primary)
  55. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Medic) (Primary)
  56. M1907 SL Trench (Medic) (Primary)
  57. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Medic) (Primary)
  58. MP 18 Trench (Assault) (Primary)
  59. Automatico M1918 Storm (Assault) (Primary)
  60. Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault) (Primary)
  61. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  62. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Assault) (Primary)
  63. 12g Automatic Backbored (Assault) (Primary)
  64. 12g Automatic Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  65. Mars Automatic Pistol (Scout) (Secondary)
  66. Steyr M1912 (Support) (Secondary)
  67. Model 10-A Slug (Assault) (Primary)
  68. Borchard C93 (All) (Secondary)
  69. Frommer Stop (Scout) (Secondary)
  70. Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic) (Secondary)
  71. Mauser C96 (Medic) (Secondary)
  72. 1903 Hammerless (Assault) (Secondary)
  73. Martini-Henry Infantry (Scout) (Primary)
  74. Beretta M1915 (Support) (Secondary)
  75. Martini-Henry Sniper (Scout) (Primary)
  76. Mle M1903 (All) (Secondary)
  77. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  78. P08 Pistol (All) (Secondary)
  79. 12g Automatic Extended (Assault) (Primary)
  80. M1911 (All) (Secondary)
  81. Bodeo 1889 (Scout) (Secondary)
  82. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Assault) (Primary)
  83. Gasser M1870 (Assault) (Secondary)
  84. Bulldog (Support) (Secondary)
  85. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Assault) (Primary)
  86. Howdah Pistol (Assault) (Secondary)
  87. No. 3 Revolver (All) (Secondary)
  88. Auto revolver (Medic) (Secondary)
  89. Model 10-A Factory (Assault) (Primary)
  90. Model 10-A Hunter (Assault) (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Support)
  2. BAR 1918 Storm (Support)
  3. BAR 1918 Trench (Support)
  4. Madsen MG Low Weight (Support)
  5. Madsen MG Storm (Support)
  6. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Medic)
  7. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Support)
  8. Madsen MG Trench (Support)
  9. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Support)
  10. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Medic)
  11. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Support)
  12. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Support)
  13. Chauchat Low Weight (Support)
  14. Huot Automatic Optical (Support)
  15. Chauchat Telescopic (Support)
  16. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Support)
  17. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Medic)
  18. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Support)
  19. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Medic)
  20. Lewis Gun Optical (Support)
  21. Mondragon Optical (Medic)
  22. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Medic)
  23. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Support)
  24. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Medic)
  25. MG15 N.A. Storm (Support)
  26. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Support)
  27. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Medic)
  28. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Scout)
  29. Russian 1895 Infantry (Scout)
  30. Russian 1895 Trench (Scout)
  31. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Scout)
  32. Russian 1895 Sniper (Scout)
  33. Mondragon Sniper (Medic)
  34. Mondragon Storm (Medic)
  35. MP 18 Experimental (Assault)
  36. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Medic)
  37. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Scout)
  38. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Scout)
  39. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Scout)
  40. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Scout)
  41. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Scout)
  42. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Assault)
  43. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Scout)
  44. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Scout)
  45. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Scout)
  46. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Scout)
  47. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Medic)
  48. RSC 1917 Optical (Medic)
  49. M1907 SL Factory (Medic)
  50. MP 18 Optical (Assault)
  51. Automatico M1918 Factory (Assault)
  52. RSC 1917 Factory (Medic)
  53. M1903 Experimental (Scout)
  54. M1907 SL Sweeper (Medic)
  55. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Medic)
  56. M1907 SL Trench (Medic)
  57. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Medic)
  58. MP 18 Trench (Assault)
  59. Automatico M1918 Storm (Assault)
  60. Automatico M1918 Trench (Assault)
  61. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Assault)
  62. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Assault)
  63. 12g Automatic Backbored (Assault)
  64. 12g Automatic Hunter (Assault)
  65. Model 10-A Slug (Assault)
  66. Martini-Henry Infantry (Scout)
  67. Martini-Henry Sniper (Scout)
  68. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Assault)
  69. 12g Automatic Extended (Assault)
  70. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Assault)
  71. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Assault)
  72. Model 10-A Factory (Assault)
  73. Model 10-A Hunter (Assault)


Secondaries Only


  1. Mars Automatic Pistol (Scout)
  2. Steyr M1912 (Support)
  3. Borchard C93 (All)
  4. Frommer Stop (Scout)
  5. Taschenpistole M1914 (Medic)
  6. Mauser C96 (Medic)
  7. 1903 Hammerless (Assault)
  8. Beretta M1915 (Support)
  9. Mle M1903 (All)
  10. P08 Pistol (All)
  11. M1911 (All)
  12. Bodeo 1889 (Scout)
  13. Gasser M1870 (Assault)
  14. Bulldog (Support)
  15. Howdah Pistol (Assault)
  16. No. 3 Revolver (All)
  17. Auto revolver (Medic)



Assault Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. MP 18 Experimental (Primary)
  2. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory (Primary)
  3. MP 18 Optical (Primary)
  4. Automatico M1918 Factory (Primary)
  5. MP 18 Trench (Primary)
  6. Automatico M1918 Storm (Primary)
  7. Automatico M1918 Trench (Primary)
  8. Hellriegel 1915 Factory (Primary)
  9. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive (Primary)
  10. 12g Automatic Backbored (Primary)
  11. 12g Automatic Hunter (Primary)
  12. Model 10-A Slug (Primary)
  13. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  14. 1903 Hammerless (Secondary)
  15. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  16. Sjögren Inertial Factory (Primary)
  17. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  18. 12g Automatic Extended (Primary)
  19. M1911 (Secondary)
  20. M97 Trench Gun Backbored (Primary)
  21. Gasser M1870 (Secondary)
  22. M97 Trench Gun Hunter (Primary)
  23. Howdah Pistol (Secondary)
  24. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  25. Model 10-A Factory (Primary)
  26. Model 10-A Hunter (Primary)


Primaries Only


  1. MP 18 Experimental
  2. Ribeyrolles 1918 Factory
  3. MP 18 Optical
  4. Automatico M1918 Factory
  5. MP 18 Trench
  6. Automatico M1918 Storm
  7. Automatico M1918 Trench
  8. Hellriegel 1915 Factory
  9. Hellriegel 1915 Defensive
  10. 12g Automatic Backbored
  11. 12g Automatic Hunter
  12. Model 10-A Slug
  13. Sjögren Inertial Factory
  14. 12g Automatic Extended
  15. M97 Trench Gun Backbored
  16. M97 Trench Gun Hunter
  17. Model 10-A Factory
  18. Model 10-A Hunter


Secondaries Only


  1. Borchard C93
  2. 1903 Hammerless
  3. Mle M1903
  4. P08 Pistol
  5. M1911
  6. Gasser M1870
  7. Howdah Pistol
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Medic Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Selbstlader 1906 Factory (Primary)
  2. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman (Primary)
  3. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper (Primary)
  4. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory (Primary)
  5. Mondragon Optical (Primary)
  6. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman (Primary)
  7. Selbstlader M1916 Optical (Primary)
  8. Selbstlader M1916 Factory (Primary)
  9. Mondragon Sniper (Primary)
  10. Mondragon Storm (Primary)
  11. Cei-Rigotti Optical (Primary)
  12. Cei-Rigotti Factory (Primary)
  13. RSC 1917 Optical (Primary)
  14. M1907 SL Factory (Primary)
  15. RSC 1917 Factory (Primary)
  16. M1907 SL Sweeper (Primary)
  17. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended (Primary)
  18. M1907 SL Trench (Primary)
  19. Cei-Rigotti Trench (Primary)
  20. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  21. Taschenpistole M1914 (Secondary)
  22. Mauser C96 (Secondary)
  23. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  24. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  25. M1911 (Secondary)
  26. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)
  27. Auto revolver (Secondary)


Primaries Only


  1. Selbstlader 1906 Factory
  2. Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman
  3. Selbstlader 1906 Sniper
  4. Autoloading 8 .35 Factory
  5. Mondragon Optical
  6. Selbstlader M1916 Marksman
  7. Selbstlader M1916 Optical
  8. Selbstlader M1916 Factory
  9. Mondragon Sniper
  10. Mondragon Storm
  11. Cei-Rigotti Optical
  12. Cei-Rigotti Factory
  13. RSC 1917 Optical
  14. M1907 SL Factory
  15. RSC 1917 Factory
  16. M1907 SL Sweeper
  17. Autoloading 8 .25 Extended
  18. M1907 SL Trench
  19. Cei-Rigotti Trench


Secondaries Only


  1. Borchard C93
  2. Taschenpistole M1914
  3. Mauser C96
  4. Mle M1903
  5. P08 Pistol
  6. M1911
  7. No. 3 Revolver
  8. Auto revolver



Scout Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. Gewehr 98 Infantry (Primary)
  2. Russian 1895 Infantry (Primary)
  3. Russian 1895 Trench (Primary)
  4. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper (Primary)
  5. Russian 1895 Sniper (Primary)
  6. Gewehr M.95 Infantry (Primary)
  7. M1903 Sniper / Marksman (Primary)
  8. Gewehr M.95 Carbine (Primary)
  9. Gewehr M.95 Marksman (Primary)
  10. SMLE MKIII Infantry (Primary)
  11. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry (Primary)
  12. SMLE MKIII Carbine (Primary)
  13. SMLE MKIII Marksman (Primary)
  14. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper (Primary)
  15. M1903 Experimental (Primary)
  16. Mars Automatic Pistol (Secondary)
  17. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  18. Frommer Stop (Secondary)
  19. Martini-Henry Infantry (Primary)
  20. Martini-Henry Sniper (Primary)
  21. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  22. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  23. M1911 (Secondary)
  24. Bodeo 1889 (Secondary)
  25. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)


Primaries Only


  1. Gewehr 98 Infantry
  2. Russian 1895 Infantry
  3. Russian 1895 Trench
  4. Gewehr 98 Marksman / Sniper
  5. Russian 1895 Sniper
  6. Gewehr M.95 Infantry
  7. M1903 Sniper / Marksman
  8. Gewehr M.95 Carbine
  9. Gewehr M.95 Marksman
  10. SMLE MKIII Infantry
  11. Lebel Model 1886 Infantry
  12. SMLE MKIII Carbine
  13. SMLE MKIII Marksman
  14. Lebel Model 1886 Sniper
  15. M1903 Experimental
  16. Martini-Henry Infantry
  17. Martini-Henry Sniper


Secondaries Only


  1. Mars Automatic Pistol
  2. Borchard C93
  3. Frommer Stop
  4. Mle M1903
  5. P08 Pistol
  6. M1911
  7. Bodeo 1889
  8. No. 3 Revolver



Support Class


Primary + Secondary Combined


  1. BAR 1918 Telescopic (Primary)
  2. BAR 1918 Storm (Primary)
  3. BAR 1918 Trench (Primary)
  4. Madsen MG Low Weight (Primary)
  5. Madsen MG Storm (Primary)
  6. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm (Primary)
  7. Madsen MG Trench (Primary)
  8. Huot Automatic Low Weight (Primary)
  9. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical (Primary)
  10. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic (Primary)
  11. Chauchat Low Weight (Primary)
  12. Huot Automatic Optical (Primary)
  13. Chauchat Telescopic (Primary)
  14. Lewis Gun Low Weight (Primary)
  15. MG15 N.A. Low Weight (Primary)
  16. Lewis Gun Optical (Primary)
  17. Lewis Gun Suppressive (Primary)
  18. MG15 N.A. Storm (Primary)
  19. MG15 N.A. Suppressive (Primary)
  20. Steyr M1912 (Secondary)
  21. Borchard C93 (Secondary)
  22. Beretta M1915 (Secondary)
  23. Mle M1903 (Secondary)
  24. P08 Pistol (Secondary)
  25. M1911 (Secondary)
  26. Bulldog (Secondary)
  27. No. 3 Revolver (Secondary)


Primaries Only


  1. BAR 1918 Telescopic
  2. BAR 1918 Storm
  3. BAR 1918 Trench
  4. Madsen MG Low Weight
  5. Madsen MG Storm
  6. M1909 Benet-Mercie Storm
  7. Madsen MG Trench
  8. Huot Automatic Low Weight
  9. M1909 Benet-Mercie Optical
  10. M1909 Benet-Mercie Telescopic
  11. Chauchat Low Weight
  12. Huot Automatic Optical
  13. Chauchat Telescopic
  14. Lewis Gun Low Weight
  15. MG15 N.A. Low Weight
  16. Lewis Gun Optical
  17. Lewis Gun Suppressive
  18. MG15 N.A. Storm
  19. MG15 N.A. Suppressive


Secondaries Only


  1. Steyr M1912
  2. Borchard C93
  3. Beretta M1915
  4. Mle M1903
  5. P08 Pistol
  6. M1911
  7. Bulldog
  8. No. 3 Revolver



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Wednesday, May 17th 2017, 8:27pm

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#1 About the "Pedersen Device" as the overall pick for Scout Primary, and the Scout Class having Secondaries generally ranked AHEAD of Primaries (such as the Frommer Stop being crowned as Best Scout Anything)....

I will admit that I have basically no experience playing as Scout in BF1. So, I'm afraid I cannot speak from actual in-game experience. Looking at Scout "single-action rifles" stats, though, it is easy to see that while they are dominant within their respective "sweetspot + ADS Not Moving" ranges and stances, they are also quite terrible outside of them. I admit that my "system" of subjecting all weapons to the same variety of ranges and Stances probably do not show these "sweetspot rifles" in the best light, but I feel that doing so best represents the "chaos" that is Battlefield.

So, am I saying that, IMO (for whatever it's worth), "relevant" Scouts in BF1 should use the Experimental as their Primary? I guess I am. Others, insisting on using "sweetspot rifles," then should run around with the Frommer Stop as their "primary," only pulling out the rifle for "sweetspot" engagements.

Besides, the Experimental, even at 100m, shooting 2x 6RB + 1x 2RB (14rnds total), still gets to 100dmg Target WAY faster than the Martini-Henry (who shoots 2x 1RB). 2.8s vs. 4.783333333s.

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#2 About the Auto Revolver, and other 53dmg "skill cannons" in general....

My "system" takes issue with how they have "shotgun" Recoil values, but without "shotgun" damage. That's all.

Auto revolver vs 12g Automatic Backbored | BF1 Weapon Comparison | Symthic

Max Damage: 53 vs. 92.4. Min Damage: 15 vs. 46.2.

The Auto Revolver is still ranked as #2 Medic Secondary for PTFO and Hipfire, basically within 15m. But that's just because the Mauser "Pocket Pistol" is just too bloody good in the whole scheme of things.

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#3 A personal note on transitioning to the Support Class....

As I continued building up these rankings, I realised that the BF1 Support LMGs are perhaps what I'm looking for in the Battlefield. Close range, they have the ease-of-use of being fully automatic, plus the ammo capacity to allow for some aiming miscues. Long range, they shoot ropes thanks to their Negative SIPS, while generally having the lowest Recoils Per Second AND Recoils To Kill in the game. Hence my previous musing that perhaps the Huot is what I should be using, despite being a Top 0.1% Healer AND Reviver according to BF Tracker.

I've been Support-only for about a month now, first to grind for the Huot, then to grind for the Huot Optical. Compared to my previous life as a Medic, I have higher KpM (1.0 vs. 0.8 ) but lower SpM (due to the Medic having 2x gadgets to rack up teamwork points, while Support only the Ammo Crate). I particularly enjoy not having to chase enemy Assaults into buildings as a Medic, where I was pretty much guaranteed to lose... as Support, I would just Limpet Charge the walls instead 8)

However, I'm currently NOT "maining" the Huot Optical as I said I would. Instead, I'm enjoying the B-M Optical. No, it is not due to the 15 vs. 19 Min-Damage discrepency... my simulations show that the Huot's additional accuracy usually makes up for that. It's just aestheic... the 1st Person View when using both Huot models, have you holding onto the drum magazine, and so the Optical's "foregrip" is attached but not being grabbed... and that bugs me :P

The B-M does also have better Reload and Velocity as well. So, it's what I'm currently rocking, with the Single Player "Trench Sweeper" skin.

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Question on class roles after looking at these rankings. In BF1 has the support moved from being a short to mid-ranged class that creates a lot of suppression to primarily a long range class? When looking at the top primary plus secondary long range stance the support class ranks with the top 6 guns and takes 8 out of 10 of the top 10. Is this just the role support has moved to in BF1 or is there something up with the gun balance currently? Or am I just misinterpreting these rankings?

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Wednesday, May 17th 2017, 10:12pm

@W_Heisenberg

Negative SIPS is REALLY POWERFUL at extended ranges.

According to its Spread and Spread "Decrease" values, the BAR Storm returns to its 0.24 Min-Spread at the 7th shot, and then keeps it there until you run out of ammo (I believe it doesn't "overheat" before your magazine is empty).

That means, even at 100m, you have 100% Hitrate from the 7th all the way to your 20th shot, doing 19dmg a pop.

To get to a Target Damage of 100, I have the BAR Storm shoot 9RB, where you can expect ~5.55 / 9 to hit. 105.4599559dmg for your 9RB.

With an RPM of 600, and 60Hz Tickrate for Shooting Mechanics, that takes 0.8833333333s.

Plus, you don't even need to wait for Spread Decrease, because you're already at Min-Spread... so there's nothing to recover from. You can start your next burst right away. Or, if the next target is clumped together, just "walk "the fire onto him. No need to burst... again, you're already at Min-Spread.

This is compared to the 1906 "Factory," which shoots 4RB (for 90.70133474dmg) + 1RB (for 35dmg) to reach the 100dmg Target. Plus Spread Decrease, that takes 1.166666667s, which is already slower.

Further, V-Recoil required from the BAR Storm to achieve that? 2.716deg. From the 1906? 4.75deg. Even the BAR Trench is still lower, 3.88deg.

The BAR gets the job done faster, with lower Recoil, then finally Reloads faster. I'd say that it's "better."

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Thursday, May 18th 2017, 12:59am

These are fantastic choices (including the M1909), I definitely approve.
Who has fun, wins.