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Sunday, April 23rd 2017, 7:43pm

Need help understanding accuracy

First, is there a source of more detailed info than the accuracy plots?

Second, some of the plot seems obvious, narrower=better. But are they purely ADS? Or better of the two? Or are they relative to each other all other weapons?

Next, and this may seem stupid, but is the green dot the shooter, or target? Some narrow away from the dot, some flare. Some, like BAR storm, are almost perfectly round. Again, is this relative? Narrowing means greater accuracy at distance compared to others? E.g. the Huot, regarded as the most accurate LMG, has a perfect teardrop shape, while the Automatico factory looks like a fan.

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Sunday, April 23rd 2017, 7:54pm

First, is there a source of more detailed info than the accuracy plots?

Second, some of the plot seems obvious, narrower=better. But are they purely ADS? Or better of the two? Or are they relative to each other all other weapons?

Next, and this may seem stupid, but is the green dot the shooter, or target? Some narrow away from the dot, some flare. Some, like BAR storm, are almost perfectly round. Again, is this relative? Narrowing means greater accuracy at distance compared to others? E.g. the Huot, regarded as the most accurate LMG, has a perfect teardrop shape, while the Automatico factory looks like a fan.
They're representative of the first five rounds of full-auto fire (or max RPM on semis) while aimed down sights. I don't know the distance at which they're being recorded. The green dot is the widest possible spread of the first shot at that reference distance.

Most automatic weapons will fan out from narrow to wide as the shots increase. LMGs have a negative spread-increase-per-shot and a very inaccurate second bullet (which is why the accuracy plots are shaped like teardrops).

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Sunday, April 23rd 2017, 8:22pm

It is for all distances. Spread is in degrees so you just make the target smaller and the plot stays the same size.
They take the gun and fire it with 5 round bursts then plot the points. Then they do that a lot of times and you get some sort of idea as to how the gun might react.
Of course they use software to simulate the gun they dont fire at a wall. Just think about it like this, you fire 5 times your first bullet will land somewhere in the green then the second somewhere in the yellow then the third in the orange ect.
Its just to give you a general idea as to how the gun might react. You could get very lucky and fire 5 bullets that have no horizontal recoil or get very unlucky and have max recoil values its all random. But random with in those areas.

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Tuesday, April 25th 2017, 10:07pm

Ok, I think I finally have it for LMGs:

First shot, very accurate
Second shot, who knows where,
Third & subsequent: spread goes down.

Is that right?

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Tuesday, April 25th 2017, 10:21pm

Ok, I think I finally have it for LMGs:

First shot, very accurate
Second shot, who knows where,
Third & subsequent: spread goes down.

Is that right?


Yes. First shot is best accuracy, second is worst accuracy, and each shot scales back to best accuracy thereafter. Most MGs tend to get back to best accuracy after 5-7 shots.
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Wednesday, April 26th 2017, 1:34am

Low Weight variants are totally usable at the third shot though. Huot LW is basically back to minspread by bullet 3 and Madsen LW is limited more by hrec than by spread on bullet 3.

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Wednesday, April 26th 2017, 10:16pm

I love the Madsen LW, 5 SS.

After about 15 SS with LMGs, I'm finally learning how to play to their strengths instead of playing assault with them.

My biggest problem has been applying their accuracy. I have trouble defining targets against a near-matching background (I can see but not real sure where to aim. Also seeing if I was hitting them or not.

I switched to the BAR telescopic last night and tore it up in Frontline. 10-3 in a 20 minute round at Fort De Vaux, my best KD yet. I previously didn't like scoped LMGs, but its not a problem since I'm not trying to engage in CQB with them.

Of course, I burn through almost a full mag for every kill at distance:-)

I've sure learned a lot on this forum. Thanks!

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Wednesday, April 26th 2017, 10:29pm

I switched to the BAR telescopic last night and tore it up in Frontline. 10-3 in a 20 minute round at Fort De Vaux, my best KD yet. I previously didn't like scoped LMGs, but its not a problem since I'm not trying to engage in CQB with them.

Of course, I burn through almost a full mag for every kill at distance:-)


That's why I love the Bulldog, it's the perfect sidearm to a range-type MG, which are what I almost always use.

Another advantage to ranged play is that reloads don't matter anywhere near as much as in a meatgrinder CQB situation.
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Thursday, April 27th 2017, 12:22am

I switched to the BAR telescopic last night and tore it up in Frontline. 10-3 in a 20 minute round at Fort De Vaux, my best KD yet. I previously didn't like scoped LMGs, but its not a problem since I'm not trying to engage in CQB with them.

Of course, I burn through almost a full mag for every kill at distance:-)


That's why I love the Bulldog, it's the perfect sidearm to a range-type MG, which are what I almost always use.

Another advantage to ranged play is that reloads don't matter anywhere near as much as in a meatgrinder CQB situation.


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