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Friday, March 24th 2017, 9:37pm

Cuz .3 is lol-worthy, even on a bipod. Between that and the 380m/s velocity (trollolololol)... good luck with those longer range targets.

0.3 base spread is actually pretty manageable in terms of hit percentage at medium range I believe (don't have access to Hitrater),

Edit: Actually, just look at the base hip spread for the Automatico Trench in-game; that crosshair is tiny at it's 0.667 cone of fire. 0.3 is 55% smaller, so medium range is certainly capable for 0.3.

it's the Hrecoil that'll kick you in the ass. The educated guess is that the Defensive Hellriegel will be a stock Hellriegel without Storm Modifiers which gives us
...0.4 V and a total of 0.95 H.
, a Galilean sight, and a bipod whose modifiers are
0.3125x spread increase (all 3 ADS stances)
0.625x spread decrease (all 3 ADS stances)
0.2x Vrecoil (all 3 ADS stances)
0.25x Hrecoil (all 3 ADS stances)
0.5x min. spread (all 3 hip stances)
0.5x max spread (all 3 hip stances)

This is the same bipod that the Ribeyrolles and Mondragon Sniper use.
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho

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Saturday, March 25th 2017, 6:21pm

It looks pretty decent here...

https://youtu.be/pA66YI70UpE

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Saturday, March 25th 2017, 10:24pm

It looks pretty decent here...

https://youtu.be/pA66YI70UpE
I'm not sure that 120+120 ammo is more fair than 120+0. While Suppressive variants of LMGs has double ammo capacity - that doesn't matter at all since support has practically infinite ammo anyway, so 240 total ammo for SMG is way too unbalanced. Higher recoil and ugly, obstructive sight won't even the doubled ammo capacity. Increasing other weapons ammo capacity isn't a good idea too.
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Saturday, March 25th 2017, 10:50pm

When Ammo 2.0 gets to weapons, I'd bet the two Hellriegels will be 60/60 and 120/0.
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Sunday, March 26th 2017, 3:08am

As far as the videos I'm seeing on youtube, the MH sniper gets a sweet spot starting at 0m. As in, BF4 ghetto shotgun.

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Sunday, March 26th 2017, 3:15am

As far as the videos I'm seeing on youtube, the MH sniper gets a sweet spot starting at 0m. As in, BF4 ghetto shotgun.

Link?

I'm 99% certain that they're just hitting wounded enemies under 30m. MH deals 90 at those ranges so it isn't really difficult to get the kill.
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Sunday, March 26th 2017, 5:37am

I did see a 100dmg, non-headshot kill on Amiens, from about 10m.

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Sunday, March 26th 2017, 7:35am

It looks pretty decent here...

https://youtu.be/pA66YI70UpE

Not exactly showcasing good range potential in the video which is what the community has been freaking out about, and the three maps he used clips from were Suez, Amiens, and Argonne Forest which, for the most part, are notorious for close range encounters. Of course an SMG is going to be good on these maps... Additionally, many of his kills were targets already damaged pretty badly so not much can be determined there either. The one headshot kill he got at range was when he deployed on Argonne and got a whopping 55 damage from 10 bullets shot. His aim wasn't the greatest, but that bullet velocity is bound to fuck with someone's aim. Then on Amiens he tried hitting a Scout at roughly 40m away unsupported and couldn't hit jack because the Hrecoil was bouncing the gun around so much. All in all, not a great sample. You can't really say anything definitive about the viability from it.

Also about the Martini-Henry thing, unless there's proof no one can believe such things. We need a source.
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Sunday, March 26th 2017, 12:51pm

As far as the videos I'm seeing on youtube, the MH sniper gets a sweet spot starting at 0m. As in, BF4 ghetto shotgun.

Link?

I'm 99% certain that they're just hitting wounded enemies under 30m. MH deals 90 at those ranges so it isn't really difficult to get the kill.


MARTINI-HENRY HAS A SCOPE! NEW SWEETSPOT? BATTLEFIELD 1 - YouTube

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Sunday, March 26th 2017, 1:17pm

As far as the videos I'm seeing on youtube, the MH sniper gets a sweet spot starting at 0m. As in, BF4 ghetto shotgun.

Link?

I'm 99% certain that they're just hitting wounded enemies under 30m. MH deals 90 at those ranges so it isn't really difficult to get the kill.


MARTINI-HENRY HAS A SCOPE! NEW SWEETSPOT? BATTLEFIELD 1 - YouTube

Well, yup, there's some fuckery going on.

I saw 72 dmg limb shots at point blank and also 100 dmg non-headshots.
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