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Sunday, July 23rd 2017, 4:33am

why use a vetterli instead of a carcano is beyond me, just like how i don't understand why for the cei rigotti we use 5 rounds clips and not six rounders.

btw... aside from the russian dlc's weapons and the vetterli, what has been found? i'm not following news from quite a while... i'd say three or four months at least.
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Sunday, July 23rd 2017, 4:55am

why use a vetterli instead of a carcano is beyond me, just like how i don't understand why for the cei rigotti we use 5 rounds clips and not six rounders.

btw... aside from the russian dlc's weapons and the vetterli, what has been found? i'm not following news from quite a while... i'd say three or four months at least.


Because a heavy black powder rifle with four rounds is more interesting than the 6.5mm Carcano and its six rounds, and this leaves the Carcano open to be added later, possibly in a Weapon Crate sort of DLC.

Because loading a 10-round gun with one six-round stripper clip and four individual rounds would be incredibly awkward.
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Sunday, July 23rd 2017, 12:13pm

Why would we need a weapon crate DLC? Are we not getting more guns with the other two?

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Sunday, July 23rd 2017, 4:47pm

I don't know how to really dig up the stats, but this is what I found.

The Maxim SMG has a variant with Lattey sights (Optical) and an "accuracy" package (I'm assuming Factory).

The General Liu, all I can find is a "stability" package (Storm, I believe). I'm sure there's another variant, but it eludes me.

The Perino M1908 has a variant with Lattey sights (Optical) and a "defensive" package (Suppressive, I'm sure).

As mentioned earlier for the Vetterli M1870, Infantry and Optical variants can be expected.

The Obrez is as is. It doesn't seem to have adjustable iron sight zoom, and thus it's almost certainly a Pilot/Tanker weapon and not a secondary.

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Sunday, July 23rd 2017, 6:08pm

I don't know how to really dig up the stats, but this is what I found.

The Maxim SMG has a variant with Lattey sights (Optical) and an "accuracy" package (I'm assuming Factory).

The General Liu, all I can find is a "stability" package (Storm, I believe). I'm sure there's another variant, but it eludes me.

The Perino M1908 has a variant with Lattey sights (Optical) and a "defensive" package (Suppressive, I'm sure).

As mentioned earlier for the Vetterli M1870, Infantry and Optical variants can be expected.

The Obrez is as is. It doesn't seem to have adjustable iron sight zoom, and thus it's almost certainly a Pilot/Tanker weapon and not a secondary.
That is very interesting. I may make a short video announcing these findings. Will definitely credit you of course :]. Perhaps the Maxim SMG will be a very slow firing high accuracy (possibly high DMG) gun?

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Sunday, July 23rd 2017, 6:46pm

Because loading a 10-round gun with one six-round stripper clip and four individual rounds would be incredibly awkward.

then ake it a 12 rounders, almost every piece of cei rigotti has a different magazine size(so far i know of 10 rounders as well as 20, 25(the most known one iirc) and 50) , but afaik, there exist no 5 rounds clips for the carcano cartridge.

so if they gotta invent something and take some creative liberties, might as well take them with the mag size of a gun that has few existing specimens rather than an entire type of clip no?
then again, i guess you could easily modify a clip to make it more compact... meh(although to be fair it'd just be faster to oad a 6 round clip and then a partial of another 6).

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i don't know of any handgun that has a select-zeroin-range function, so i don't see how it can only be a pilot gun, unless you meant to say the opposite that is.
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obliteration mode scoreRANK:994 TOP:1% OUT OF:159466
handgun medals RANK:2236 TOP:2% OUT OF:143874
longest headshot RANK:9512 TOP:4% OUT OF:257589
recon score RANK:10871 TOP:4% OUT OF:274899
general score per minute RANK:10016 TOP:4% OUT OF:294774

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Headshot distance RANK:493* TOP:0%
Revives per assault minute RANK: 6019 TOP: 3%
Headshots / kill percentage RANK:25947 TOP:13%
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Sunday, July 23rd 2017, 6:57pm


@CReaperDorian
i don't know of any handgun that has a select-zeroin-range function, so i don't see how it can only be a pilot gun, unless you meant to say the opposite that is.
He meant Zoom Selection. Since Obrez apparently does not have this feature, then it is not a sidearm.

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Sunday, July 23rd 2017, 8:52pm

As someone who really can't dig through files, if you're going to post that much, could you just provide the actual answer while you're at it? :whistling:

Classes are fairly obvious though, it's the variants I'd really like to see nailed down here, and we seem to be having trouble with that.
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Sunday, July 23rd 2017, 8:58pm

I actually won't be surprised if one of the variants of the General Liu Rifle is a straight-pull bolt-action rifle. Scout gets a semi-automatic variant of a bolt-action rifle (M1903 Experimental), and the Russian 1895 Trench and RSC 1917 do pretty much parallel each other. So, it really won't be out-of-place for the Medic class.

About the Cei-Rigotti, it seems that only 7.65x53mm Mauser variants are known to exist today, despite there being literature on examples utilizing the 6.5x52mm Carcano loading.



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Sunday, July 23rd 2017, 9:30pm

I don't get any .dice files when I go into the CTE's folder. I imagine I have to decrypt the .cas install files? I really don't know how to navigate all this mumbo-jumbo. . .