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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 8:52pm

the huot is the only other lmg with an FSSM of 4, but the madsen has a higher rof, which means it reach min spread faster than any other lmg.(except the bar maybe, but i'm not sure)
Madsen LW has the same FSSM as 4 as well. The good thing about Madsen compare to BAR is that BAR doesn't have a LW version and 20 MAG pair with this make it worse at range than Madsen.

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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 8:59pm

the huot is the only other lmg with an FSSM of 4, but the madsen has a higher rof, which means it reach min spread faster than any other lmg.(except the bar maybe, but i'm not sure)
Madsen LW has the same FSSM as 4 as well. The good thing about Madsen compare to BAR is that BAR doesn't have a LW version and 20 MAG pair with this make it worse at range than Madsen.

i was talking of the madsen lw from the very start, "the only other", because the first is the madsen lw, the bar doesn't have a 4 fssm but i don't know if the rof can compensate for that because i can't bother with the math.
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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 9:14pm

Madsen LW has the same FSSM as 4 as well. The good thing about Madsen compare to BAR is that BAR doesn't have a LW version and 20 MAG pair with this make it worse at range than Madsen.
The BAR Telescopic exists, and 19 minimum damage at 600RPM isn't anything to scoff at. The only problem again is that you're only good for 1-2 kills, again due to the mag size

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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 11:47pm

i was talking of the madsen lw from the very start, "the only other",
My apology. I didn't notice that at all... My bad again.

the bar doesn't have a 4 fssm but i don't know if the rof can compensate for that because i can't bother with the math.
Here is the math I do. Hope this is all right. It is based only on number and my personal understanding only. So there would be a huge chance I screw everything here. Hope it works....And I am too lazy to type it on my computer again. :wacko:

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Wednesday, March 1st 2017, 2:21am

Take with a grain of salt:

Assault: MP18
Medic: No idea. Don't play it enough.
Support: MG15 Suppressive
Scout: Depends on range. Mannlicher M95 if close. Gewehr 98 if far.

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Wednesday, March 1st 2017, 3:39am

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i think you're overcomplicating it, there's no need to put in spread values as well, all you need is the FSSM and rof, calculate how many shots it takes to get to base spread(and that is FSSM+1, correct?) and then calculate how much time it takes gun X to fire Y bullets, which will equal to the time it takes for said gun to reach back to base spread.
i have no clue how your calculations came to the conclusion that the huot is faster, that žs phisycally impossible as it has the same fssm but lower rof than the madsen LW.
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Wednesday, March 1st 2017, 4:15am

Assault: Automatico any variant m97 sweeper. Both very forgiving weapons

Medic: all 5 round SLR are good outside CQC and very long range. '07 trench or auto 8 extended for close range.

Support: Madsen any variant is probably the best for close-mid range. If you expect longer ranged engagments the Lewis LW is well-rounded.

Scout: Russian, Gewher, m1903 are all interchangable. Use the Martini Henry if you want to use the sweet spot system. Avoid the m1903 experimental and '95 trench. m.95 gewher is best for aggression.

The only weapon where your own play will likely lead you to an inaccurate conclusion is the auto 8. A short guide is that the weapon may not have an infinite 3HK range but it does have a very long one. If you were using any other weapon then the m1916, you'd probably have reloaded anyway. At any non-moving, non-prone target mag dumb as fast as you can. Pace your shots against anything else. Stick to cover and stay at mid range.

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Wednesday, March 1st 2017, 4:17am

@Quantage

i think you're overcomplicating it, there's no need to put in spread values as well, all you need is the FSSM and rof, calculate how many shots it takes to get to base spread(and that is FSSM+1, correct?) and then calculate how much time it takes gun X to fire Y bullets, which will equal to the time it takes for said gun to reach back to base spread.
i have no clue how your calculations came to the conclusion that the huot is faster, that žs phisycally impossible as it has the same fssm but lower rof than the madsen LW.
The reason why I bring the spread value is that I want to calculate how long those three gun reach to perfect spread(0 spread)I don't know it is possible or not. But when you only talk about back to base spread. That would be simple.
BAR would be (5+1)(round)/600(RPM)*60(Sec)=.6sec
Madsen LW (4+1)/540*60=.5556sec
Huot LW (4+1)/475*60=.63sec :wacko:

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Wednesday, March 1st 2017, 4:30am

i wonder if the huot might need or not a 3 FSSM...
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Wednesday, March 1st 2017, 4:45am

i wonder if the huot might need or not a 3 FSSM...
Probably not. Huot has a .18 base spread Compare to .24 BAR and Madsen have. And the time different is low TBH(under .1sec again if my calculation was right). Not to mention the horz recoil is supreme on Huot.