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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 1:38am

Hate to be that guy, best guns for each class?

Hey guys, as the subject states I'm wondering what, in your opinions, are the "best" guns for each class in general. I understand some have guns more suited to certain situations etc., I've gone through the stats and charts but I'm afraid I don't understand all the terminology or what I'm looking for exactly that would make a gun appealing over another besides the basics. So if the people here that actually know what to look for and what they're talking about (clearly not me) would mind giving me their opinion on the best gun for each class, thanks! Also if you wouldn't mind going into the customization for them, is zoom for iron sights worth using / bayonets etc. Thanks again!

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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 5:03am

model 10 slug, model 8 .35, madsen low weight/mg15(depending if you want to kill or suppress), m95 marskman/smle optical, these are what i concluded are the best weapons for each class considering upsides and downsides of all of them regarding spread and ttk, and they all completely ignore recoil values either because they don't have it(sniper rifles) or cnan nullify(low weight mgs) while also having very good spread values paired with some of the best ttks in their classes.

the slug is a guaranteed 1-hit kill withing8 meters and can headshot kill to i don't know how much, probably about 40-50 meters.
the .35 is literally the best gun in the game with the only downside being the magsize, if you don't go around killing entire armies you won't find anything better(other wise you might opt for the .25 or hte upcoming rsc, as usually army-killling is don in close quarters less or more)
the madsen low weight has one of the shortest time to base spread values in the class while also having the second fastest ttk in the class(until the chauchat comes at least) and a bigger mag than the bar pired with a bipod and overall very good stats, also you can use the mg15(any variant, but preferably low weight or suppressive) to pin down people and keep shooting for eternity, something which the lewis does as welll, but not as well as it has a higher btk and half the mag in the equivalent variants.
the m95 is technicallly the best gun in the game if you're the human equivalent of aimbot(which nobody is which is why the model 8 is higher up on the list), and the smle is the most competitive bolt action with the shortest sweeetspot and highest bullet count along with good rof, using optical on the smle and marksman on the m995 maximizes both of their natural benefits(range and mobility and the ability to keep firing while aiming with whichever scope)


naturally though, if you want to specialize(e.g. long range, short range, moving shoooting, hipfire, etc...) there are better options, but if you want to tryhard and just mow down people in every situation assuming you have good enough aiming and postioning, then these at least imho, are the best ones.
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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 6:39am

The best gun for each class is the one that fits your playstyle the most. Start from there, and then consult stats

Do you want to play aggressively on point? Do you play conservatively and keep your distance? Do you value statistical superiority over all else, and/or willing to limit your engagements to 1-2? Etc

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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 8:28am

using optical on the smle
Which version of the SMLE is optical? I don't see one that states that, just the "Carbine / Marksman / Infantry" but none say they have an optic, unless you meant something else. Thanks for the response!

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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 8:44am

using optical on the smle
Which version of the SMLE is optical? I don't see one that states that, just the "Carbine / Marksman / Infantry" but none say they have an optic, unless you meant something else. Thanks for the response!
He meant the Carbine. It has the same sight as most Optical variants in the game so I assume this is what he meant.

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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 3:35pm

using optical on the smle
Which version of the SMLE is optical? I don't see one that states that, just the "Carbine / Marksman / Infantry" but none say they have an optic, unless you meant something else. Thanks for the response!
He meant the Carbine. It has the same sight as most Optical variants in the game so I assume this is what he meant.

it also has the same stats(which is relaly just better moving ads spread)
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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 6:34pm

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model 10 slug, model 8 .35, madsen low weight/mg15(depending if you want to kill or suppress), m95 marskman/smle optical, these are what i concluded are the best weapons for each class considering upsides and downsides of all of them regarding spread and ttk, and they all completely ignore recoil values either because they don't have it(sniper rifles) or cnan nullify(low weight mgs) while also having very good spread values paired with some of the best ttks in their classes.

the slug is a guaranteed 1-hit kill withing8 meters and can headshot kill to i don't know how much, probably about 40-50 meters.
the .35 is literally the best gun in the game with the only downside being the magsize, if you don't go around killing entire armies you won't find anything better(other wise you might opt for the .25 or hte upcoming rsc, as usually army-killling is don in close quarters less or more)
the madsen low weight has one of the shortest time to base spread values in the class while also having the second fastest ttk in the class(until the chauchat comes at least) and a bigger mag than the bar pired with a bipod and overall very good stats, also you can use the mg15(any variant, but preferably low weight or suppressive) to pin down people and keep shooting for eternity, something which the lewis does as welll, but not as well as it has a higher btk and half the mag in the equivalent variants.
the m95 is technicallly the best gun in the game if you're the human equivalent of aimbot(which nobody is which is why the model 8 is higher up on the list), and the smle is the most competitive bolt action with the shortest sweeetspot and highest bullet count along with good rof, using optical on the smle and marksman on the m995 maximizes both of their natural benefits(range and mobility and the ability to keep firing while aiming with whichever scope)


naturally though, if you want to specialize(e.g. long range, short range, moving shoooting, hipfire, etc...) there are better options, but if you want to tryhard and just mow down people in every situation assuming you have good enough aiming and postioning, then these at least imho, are the best ones.


What do you mean by shortest time to base? Is this better then the trench variant?


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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 6:54pm

My absolute favourites are;

Model 10 A Slug and 12G automatic hunter
Huot automatic and Benet mercie storm
Autoloader 8 .35 Factory and Luger 1906 (Cei Rigotti Trench = Honourable mention)
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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 8:17pm

Hmm...based on what works for me rather than pure stats. If I had to pick only one from each class...

MP18 trench
Autoloading 8 marksman on min magnification
Huot or B-M storm...difficult one... Huot
M95 Carbine. or 1906 Marksman if I really want to play sniping.

Actually I like the Selb 1906 more but the Auto 8's rapid fire helps me out more.

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Tuesday, February 28th 2017, 8:29pm

What do you mean by shortest time to base? Is this better then the trench variant?

time to base spread refers to how long an lmg will take to get back to base spread by constanty firing, this is calculated by rof and FSSM, the huot is the only other lmg with an FSSM of 4, but the madsen has a higher rof, which means it reach min spread faster than any other lmg.(except the bar maybe, but i'm not sure)
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