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Monday, April 24th 2017, 7:52am

The Mars Auto is a beast - taking a quote from Wikipedia on it:
The captain in charge of tests of the Mars at the Naval Gunnery School in 1902 observed, "No one who fired once with the pistol wished to shoot it again". Shooting the Mars pistol was described as "singularly unpleasant and alarming"

I liked it on the PC because of the 3 shot kill out to 22m, and when I switched to console, I found it quite a bit harder to use. I still like it, even if it seems like it's exploding every time I fire it. Or maybe I like it because of that.

As for the m1911, I seem to encounter plenty of medics and scouts using it, but strangely few of either support or assault. Not that there aren't assaults or supports carrying it, just that I don't seem to encounter them using their secondaries.
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Monday, April 24th 2017, 8:23am

Yeah it has a special purpose, that is why you saw it a lot with Scouts since release. It is still decent when you use it as a primary, but it shines as a pistol finisher. DICE must have implemented it that way, also it does show how instinctively the players gravitate to the best option.

Personally, for me higher rate of fire weapons work better than the revolvers, I need some feedback in the form of hitmarkers to adjust my aim, and the revolvers usually can not deliver on this. M1911 is the pistol for me, and others like it, are the pistols for me, despite the stats.

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Tuesday, April 25th 2017, 3:06am

Can't stand it, don't understand why so many people use it. Frommer stop and friends, all day.

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Tuesday, April 25th 2017, 6:34am

Can't stand it, don't understand why so many people use it. Frommer stop and friends, all day.
Hit enemy from SMLE, switch to Mars and finish enemy with 1, sometimes 2 shots up to 40m. Other pistols simply can't do that due to min damage - Mars has 23, which even bypasses body modifiers. Frommer Stop is great at CQB, but can't be used as finisher past 16m.
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Tuesday, April 25th 2017, 11:08am

I actually had a great few games last night with Martini & Mars, really started to like the Mars but i still prefer the Frommer stop paired with the normal infantry rifles (i don't use scoped snipers)

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Tuesday, April 25th 2017, 7:47pm

I actually had a great few games last night with Martini & Mars, really started to like the Mars but i still prefer the Frommer stop paired with the normal infantry rifles (i don't use scoped snipers)
In that case, since you're already fighting in CQB-style Frommer Stop is definetely better choice due to draw time(0.4s vs 0.6s), TTK and ROF.
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Tuesday, April 25th 2017, 9:27pm

Can't stand it, don't understand why so many people use it. Frommer stop and friends, all day.
Hit enemy from SMLE, switch to Mars and finish enemy with 1, sometimes 2 shots up to 40m. Other pistols simply can't do that due to min damage - Mars has 23, which even bypasses body modifiers. Frommer Stop is great at CQB, but can't be used as finisher past 16m.

Beyond 16m I'm using the BA anyway... and you can always fire the frommer twice....

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Wednesday, May 3rd 2017, 6:08pm

Can't stand it, don't understand why so many people use it. Frommer stop and friends, all day.
Hit enemy from SMLE, switch to Mars and finish enemy with 1, sometimes 2 shots up to 40m. Other pistols simply can't do that due to min damage - Mars has 23, which even bypasses body modifiers. Frommer Stop is great at CQB, but can't be used as finisher past 16m.

Beyond 16m I'm using the BA anyway... and you can always fire the frommer twice....
1 shot has way much less TTK than 2 and can be a lifesaver against "Automatico" user, who is getting closer to you. Also, don't forget Mars muzzle velocity and min spread - that's make sense.
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Thursday, May 11th 2017, 11:11pm

Can't stand it, don't understand why so many people use it. Frommer stop and friends, all day.
Hit enemy from SMLE, switch to Mars and finish enemy with 1, sometimes 2 shots up to 40m. Other pistols simply can't do that due to min damage - Mars has 23, which even bypasses body modifiers. Frommer Stop is great at CQB, but can't be used as finisher past 16m.

Beyond 16m I'm using the BA anyway... and you can always fire the frommer twice....
1 shot has way much less TTK


Does it?
Weapon Deploy Shot 1 Shot 2 Shot 3
Mars 0.0 0.6* 0.9 1.2
Frommer 0.0 0.4 0.53* 0.66 0.79
* Time where the kill happens

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Also, don't forget Mars muzzle velocity and min spread - that's make sense.


Makes it better at longer ranges where I'd be using the primary anyway

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Friday, May 12th 2017, 4:10am

Frommer can draw and fire two before the mars fires one. Seems like a no-brained to use the Frommer—why would I want a range-oriented sidearm alongside a ranged primary?

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