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Both the sentries and the flamer are vulnerable to getting swarmed by the things they can fight (infantry)
The tank hunter, however, can sit back with impunity and kill every single vehicle on the enemy team.
This goes back to a very basic question: what is the purpose of the Elite classes? What do they actually do in practice?Both the sentries and the flamer are vulnerable to getting swarmed by the things they can fight (infantry)
The tank hunter, however, can sit back with impunity and kill every single vehicle on the enemy team.
What I'm getting out of this is that the Tank Hunter is the only one that can really do its job.
It's supposed to be a hard counter to vehicles, that vehicles themselves have a very tough time killing or escaping from. Not all that different from killing Medics or Scouts with a Tank, and an Assault from outside CQB. Generally speaking, a competent Tank Hunter will wipe the enemy team's vehicles off the map, and that's the whole idea.
You just specifically said why it's RNG: sometimes you pick up the kit and evac it to someplace useful, sometimes you get swamped by infy, or run down by cav or trench darted.How is that in any way RNG? Or how is it, for that matter, less fair than tanks or planes?
Tanks and Planes spawn at home base, cannot be selected by the enemy team, are selected while dead and therefore cannot be interfered with (apart from any friendlies also camping the spawn menu). Elites, on the other hand, spawn at actual locations on the map that require team control, can be picked up by anyone, and must be "selected" in person by the player intending to use it, who is both before and after at risk of being killed. Meanwhile, tankers and pilots get to lazily sit around the spawn screen without a care in the world and spawn their large, very powerful asset in the safety of their home base, to move up into the battle at their leisure.
I also don't see complaints about Assaults, of which any member of the enemy team can choose to be at any time, from any location they control or have presence, including from a plane. That's infinitely more "RNG", to use that term, than the Elites.
And I further don't see complains about Field Guns, probably because they're stationary (and therefore avoidable and predictable) and generally lose a 1v1 to a tank anyway.
The Tank Hunter is the only true hard counter to tanks in the game, that isn't another tank itself. This is a good thing.
Whether you can maneuver to someplace useful or you get run down by cav or trench darted is, practically speaking, random. So is say getting a horse from a dead cav at the same time as your tank hunter spawns so you also have mobility and free ammo is also, practically speaking, random.That's not RNG, not even close; that's uncertainty. They spawn at preset locations on timers. If your team can't hold the location it spawns and take it, and they can't kill an enemy who picks it up, the enemy team gets it. That's not RNG in the slightest. You and/or your teammates screwed up or were outplayed, and now the enemy has an advantage, simple as that. Some things are simply beyond your personal control, and that's a good thing.
what is the practical purpose of the Elites? What mechanic do they contribute to the game?
Also, no one seems to bat an eye when tankers or pilots go, like 20 or 30 to just a couple deaths
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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "JSLICE20" (Feb 8th 2017, 6:34am)
Whether you can maneuver to someplace useful or you get run down by cav or trench darted is, practically speaking, random. So is say getting a horse from a dead cav at the same time as your tank hunter spawns so you also have mobility and free ammo is also, practically speaking, random.
You still didn't answer my question: what is the practical purpose of the Elites? What mechanic do they contribute to the game?
Yes, that is precisely what I was getting at.what is the practical purpose of the Elites? What mechanic do they contribute to the game?
To give the casual player a fighting chance against more experienced players. Stat padding tools. Or they're a gimmick. Battle Pickups in BF4: gimmick. Elites in BF1: slightly more efficient gimmicks, but gimmicks nonetheless.
What?! I loathe it! If I see someone dominating in a tank, you can bet that I'll do everything in my power to take it out or facilitate taking it out. If I see someone dominating in a plane, you can bet that I'll do everything in my power to take it out or facilitate taking it out. Those kinds of players are high priority targets who can actually influence the outcome of a match over the whole period of the match because tanks have oodles of armor and planes having super high mobility, both of these corresponding aspects extend their lifetimes. Elites? Why they are so weak in comparison since they can be killed relatively easily even as a lone infantryman,you can't reliably do that against tanks and planes.
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