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Saturday, February 4th 2017, 3:18pm

I'm super torn between the marksman and factory right now, and welcome any and all feedback that goes towards picking one as a primary weapon.

I say Marksman. It fires two consecutive shots just slightly less accurate than the Factory firing one (0.265 vs. 0.21). Plus with a very minimal Spread Increase per Shot of 0.125...Fo-get about it!
I see what you're saying, and it seems many other people agree. Including skanic who made a similar comment on my video about hitting 4 consecutive shots, which is easier with the marksman due to the lower SIPS. There are a couple of things I like about the factory though, mainly the hip fire having better spread recovery and the quicker ADS. Also the 1x iron sights for close quarters feels really good.

If someone pops around a corner at sub 15m and I have the marksman against their mp18, I feel like I lose because my only option is to hipfire. If I have the factory, it feels like I have a chance since I can ads and pop 3 shots quickly enough to flat out kill.

All this is assuming your opponent is as skilled as you are.

Anyone else have arguments in favor of either variant?

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Saturday, February 4th 2017, 3:49pm

Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.

All this Model 8 .35 love inspired me to finally create an account and post something. The more I use this gun the more I love it. Unfortunately, it makes other medic rifles hard to go back to. The 300 rpm guns feel okay, but anything slower than that just feels unusable.

I made a highlight video from a few of my matches using the Model 8, I would love for you guys to check it out. I only very very recently started recording gameplay, so it is pretty rough around the edges in some ways. Thanks!

Autoloading 8 .35 HIGHLIGHTS - Turns out it's pretty good - YouTube


Good highlights. You NA? hmu for some .35 dom gurl

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Saturday, February 4th 2017, 4:08pm

use the bayonet.
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Saturday, February 4th 2017, 4:47pm

No bayonets.

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"As a youtuber shouldn't be trying to be reeling in your viewers with exciting stuff being said not your boring ass commentary for your video"

"The more you watch his vid the dumber he gets I swear he's borderline autistic look I got shot behind cover beacuase thin sheets metal are unpenetrable. Bf4 is just as quiet and tactical as bf3 random explosion in the background . Player has dissconected from chat
You started playing bf3 and never touched bfc1/2. Please do yourself a favor and shutdown your generic cod channel down"

"Nice clickb8 Faggot w8ting for your shit tier video to disable comments . Fucking newfag cancer go play some cod you activisiom cock faggot"

"I don't see why he [MarbleDuck] always tries to shit on levelcap he is better and has a million more subs...and also "there isnt a best gun in she game there are guns that are better that others at different engagement distances" yes thats true and whichever is the best/most average at all of them is the "best gun""

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Saturday, February 4th 2017, 6:37pm

the bayonets reason of exhistence is exactly for when you run out of rounds, which with the model 8 will happen so often that there really is no reason to NOT use a bayonet.
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Saturday, February 4th 2017, 6:52pm

You misspelled Auto Revolver.

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Saturday, February 4th 2017, 7:01pm

You misspelled Auto Revolver.
Wheres the upvote?

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Saturday, February 4th 2017, 7:01pm

You misspelled Auto Revolver.

i use it, i still run out of ammo and end up using the bayonet as last resource, i still end up using it less than if i had any other pistol though.
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Saturday, February 4th 2017, 7:34pm

There are a couple of things I like about the factory though, mainly the hip fire having better spread recovery and the quicker ADS. Also the 1x iron sights for close quarters feels really good.

If someone pops around a corner at sub 15m and I have the marksman against their mp18, I feel like I lose because my only option is to hipfire. If I have the factory, it feels like I have a chance since I can ads and pop 3 shots quickly enough to flat out kill.

All this is assuming your opponent is as skilled as you are.

True, it really depends on what situations you find yourself in. When running the Marksman, I'll try to make my engagements consist of medium to medium-long range and just bust out a Revolver if I come across someone up close. Similarly, I'll try to remain in close to medium range if the Factory is in play. I do believe, however, that once an individual attains excellent target tracking in close quarters with the Marksman, then the Factory may become obsolete. Maybe. It's just a theory, of course.

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the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho


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Saturday, February 4th 2017, 7:35pm

You misspelled Auto Revolver.

I'll take the Auto Revolver over the glitched bayonet anyday. Auto revolver is a reliable pocket primary, bayonet is like buying drugs from a random stranger, you never know where you'll end up.

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