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## [Hypothetical] If the Rank 10 weapons were to get variants

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Wednesday, January 11th 2017, 6:59am

### [Hypothetical] If the Rank 10 weapons were to get variants

Today, DICE LA's weapon designer held a Q&A on reddit (he edited to say he's going off for the night, but will continue later). Among other interesting things, the topic of Rank 10 guns, their effectiveness, and them (ideally) getting variants was brought up by the community a few times.

Which got me thinking, what would their variants be? There's a lot to factor in here: the weapon's role, the roles of other weapons in its class and what their variants are, what would actually be useful, what may be too useful (I'm looking at you, Automatico Experimental), what fits the weapon's model and real-world traits (i.e. extended mag), and so forth. I came up with what I think is a pretty solid set of variants, but I'd like input and opinions from those who know the intricacies of them the best, meaning all of you guys.

• Hellriegel - Factory / Trench / Optical (currently actually Storm)
• M1906 - Factory / Optical / Marksman (currently actually Marksman w/o scope)
• Huot - Low Weight / Optical / Gunner
• Martini-Henry - Rifleman / Carbine / Marksman

As a potential alternate to the Huot's Optical variant, Experimental (Optical sights and three-round burst). Partly because I'm curious as to how a burst-fire MG would work.

As a potential alternate to the Martini-Henry's Carbine variant, Trench. Like the R1895, that means a closer-ranged variant chambered for different ammo. In this case, buckshot, making it a Blunderbuss Shotgun.
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Wednesday, January 11th 2017, 7:31am

### Quoted from "BleedingUranium"

Hellriegel - Factory / Trench / Optical (currently actually Storm)
Would be positively filthy for close range Hip-fire, moreso than it already is.
Could essentially become a 60 round Assault Rifle.

Huot - Low Weight / Optical / Gunner
Some kind of magnified sight would certainly benefit this Machine Gun's role; I'd actually vote Telescopic instead.
An extended magazine would certainly be welcomed.
To Aim Assist or not to Aim Assist, that is the question.

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This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "JSLICE20" (Jan 11th 2017, 9:42am)

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Wednesday, January 11th 2017, 1:39pm

The Hellriegel should get its magazine variant as a standard and an extended variation (currently the factory variant) somewhere in between

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Wednesday, January 11th 2017, 2:36pm

### Quoted from "colers"

The Hellriegel should get its magazine variant as a standard and an extended variation (currently the factory variant) somewhere in between

True. Storm with the mag, and a factory variant with the drum magazine. This would decrease the dominance of the Hellriegel to reasonable amounts. It would likely also make RDs statements concerning SMG usage more true (in what world is a 40% usage of a weapon variant, another 40% with three variants and 20% with three variants again an even usage?).

As for the rest, a marksman/sniper variant for the 1906 would make sense, or a trench variant maybe. This would be in line with not making the rank 10 weapons a clear upgrade of other weapons. However, if they want to stick to authenticity and the variant system there are bound to be some obsolete weapons.
You could have a trench Huot as well, to distinguish it a bit more from the Lewis, I guess.

What I do not want to see are optical variants, since the RDS are prone to a lot of visual and animation drawbacks when moving and shooting. Unless that gets reworked of course.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "VincentNZ" (Jan 11th 2017, 2:44pm)

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Wednesday, January 11th 2017, 2:43pm

I've been pestering our resident gameplay designer for months about getting level 10 variants but haven't gotten anywhere

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Wednesday, January 11th 2017, 9:55pm

### Quoted from "marbleduck"

I've been pestering our resident gameplay designer for months about getting level 10 variants but haven't gotten anywhere

The only hangup I see on this (aside from devs potentially being stubborn) is War Bonds have to be added so that every player still gets enough to unlock all the new variants. Though worst case scenario they could just be unlocked at Rank 10 without any WBs needed. And while the Rank 10 guns aren't awful, they're also not ideal. The Luger and Huot are very much accuracy-based, long range weapons, yet neither can use optics. The former missing its Sniper variant also gives us only one Sniper variant for SLRs, and Support only has two Telescopic/Gunner MGs, one of which is the BAR which only half counts.

As for the Hellriegel, having its 20-round stick mag for Factory and (Storm/Trench/Optical), with the third variant as Extended with the drum would have been ideal, but sadly it's probably too late for that.
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This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "BleedingUranium" (Jan 11th 2017, 10:04pm)