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## M1907 SL semi auto variants

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Monday, January 2nd 2017, 5:27pm

I'm loving the trench as well, the Sweeper seems pretty pointless to me now. Thanks for the heads up!

I'm also wondering, with the faster recoil recovery and spread decrease, does the Factory variant actually outperform the Sweeper at range (assuming 300rpm for both). If not, what exactly is the niche for this gun? How should I be using it?

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Monday, January 2nd 2017, 5:49pm

M1907 Factory vs. Sweeper

M1907 Factory:

• Faster Recoil decrease 6 vs 4; M1907 SL Factory recovers 50% faster from recoil
• Much faster spread decrease (HIP) 7.5 vs 3.75; M1907 SL Factory recovers 100% faster from spread (HIP)

M1907 Sweeper:

• Significatly less upwards recoil 0.56 vs 0.8; M1907 SL Sweeper has 30% less upwards kick
• Slightly less spread increase per shot (HIP) 0.125 vs 0.25; Spread increases 50% less on M1907 SL Sweeper when shooting (HIP)

Judging by the comparison, it appears the Factory version will be more efficient at range (with recoil compensation) due to the much quicker recoil decrease duration.

The Sweeper version seems to be only good for fully automatic fire from the hip as the spread increase halves that of the Factory.
To Aim Assist or not to Aim Assist, that is the question.
For 'skill cannons,' that is.

Nope, Aim Assist or bust.

the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$tho This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "JSLICE20" (Jan 2nd 2017, 5:58pm) Posts: 1,367 Date of registration : Jun 23rd 2012 Platform: PC Location: Germany, Bavaria Battlelog: Reputation modifier: 11 Monday, January 2nd 2017, 6:09pm Gee people are only now catching on how insanely useful and powerful hipfire is in BF1? Aside from the scout's lever action I practically always use trench variants where available. (or at least I used to. I've been on a break for a month now) Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 3 Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield 4 Zormau - Battlelog / Battlefield Hardline ### Memorable quotes not taken yet: ### Quoted from "NoctyrneSAGA" ### Quoted from "Nick 30075" Of course, this ignores the non-constant cross-sectional first moment of area across the chest as well as non-constant material properties of the boob; it would be difficult to perform a more detailed analysis (as in, I'd have to have a shape function AND I'd need to derive a function for elastic modulus as a function of lateral breast coordinate) but whatever. It's 2am and I'm lazy. I always believed science should be very hands on experience. ### Quoted from "NoctyrneSAGA" You should also answer this question I had posed in that thread: Would you be willing to pay your surgeon more if he was going to use a chainsaw for the opening incision of surgery? Clearly using a chainsaw isn't truly suited for surgery but that doesn't really matter. If he's "skilled" enough to be able to use the wrong tools of the trade, he should be rewarded for that skill right? Posts: 3,096 Date of registration : Apr 26th 2013 Platform: PS4 Location: Arizona, USA Reputation modifier: 14 Monday, January 2nd 2017, 6:14pm ### Quoted from "Zormau" Gee people are only now catching on how insanely useful and powerful hipfire is in BF1? This is exacerbated by having the Bayonet equipped since it slows down the time to shoot from sprinting. With a Bayonet, really good hipfire accuracy is extremely valuable if you happen upon an enemy, especially in close quarters. ### Quoted from "Labby" So what the bayonet is actually doing is causing you to take 2.5x as long to transition out of sprinting before you can fire. To Aim Assist or not to Aim Assist, that is the question. For 'skill cannons,' that is. Nope, Aim Assist or bust. ### Prepare your laughbox ### Quoted from "Zer0Cod3x" the Sebstalder is quiet good since it can 3hit kill at any distanc ,but In my opinion i actually thikn the sweeper is better, its got a really really fast firerate that can beat alll those Noobmaticos, Helregall adn shitguns in close quarters , and its also really accurate out to like l;ong range,. overall great allround gun, jsut my 2$ tho

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Tuesday, January 3rd 2017, 12:14pm

### Quoted from "Zormau"

Gee people are only now catching on how insanely useful and powerful hipfire is in BF1? Aside from the scout's lever action I practically always use trench variants where available. (or at least I used to. I've been on a break for a month now)
https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf1/insights

Have you never seen this? The only trench variants that see any real use are the SMG's.

I've barely used any of the 1907's (I'm an Auto Ext. guy), but after using the Trench I'm pretty surprised how little it's used, as the Sweeper is by far the most popular.

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Tuesday, January 3rd 2017, 12:26pm

Yeah but even without the trench variant the hipfire is still decent on most weapons. I remember having the Rigotti Factory and was playing Fao. I was lying on F below the crate where the flamekit spawns in a gas cloud. An enemy came through the gate likely 20-25m away and did not see me. Well what can I say, I took more time to shoot, but in the end hit 4 out of 5 shots from the hip. I thought it was quite ridiculous.

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Thursday, January 5th 2017, 9:13pm

### Quoted from "VincentNZ"

I remember having the Rigotti Factory and was playing Fao. I was lying on F below the crate where the flamekit spawns in a gas cloud. An enemy came through the gate likely 20-25m away and did not see me. Well what can I say, I took more time to shoot, but in the end hit 4 out of 5 shots from the hip. I thought it was quite ridiculous.

This is due to the fact that the Cei-Rigotti Factory Hip-fire while prone is identical to the Cei-Rigotti Trench Hip-fire while standing. Both share a 1.0 Hip spread which is quite good.
To Aim Assist or not to Aim Assist, that is the question.
For 'skill cannons,' that is.

Nope, Aim Assist or bust.

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